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difference between pleco & algae wafers?

I accidentally bought Pleco wafers...can I use them for my cherry shrimp, mystery snails and otos? I usually get algae wafers...

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I accidentally bought Pleco wafers...can I use them for my cherry shrimp, mystery snails and otos? I usually get algae wafers...

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Higher quality pleco wafers will often include animal protein in them rather than pure vegetable ingredients. Either will be good for the animals you've mentioned.
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I accidentally bought Pleco wafers...can I use them for my cherry shrimp, mystery snails and otos? I usually get algae wafers...

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Shouldn't be a problem. Which brand is it?

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If you look at the ingredients- depending on brand, they may just be a label. I think pleco wafers 'sometimes' have more protein... however many brands of algae wafers have more fillers and 'fish meal' as a main ingredient (ingredients are listed from most to least on the label... once you start looking you may be surprised to find important things like spirulina is towards the bottom and things like 'wheat' at the top, ugh).

I use lots of boiled slices of veggies- zuchini is my Oto/shrimps favorite as the fish usually eat the wafers

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It looks like they are tetra brand -- they had a weird 2nd color in the center of them, which threw me off! I had some "use it or lose it" coupon at Petsmart and I accidentally grabbed these instead of their plain algae wafers. The little dudes usually get Hikari brand algae wafers. IIRC, they didn't have an ingredients list, but to be honest, they've been at the bottom of the bin (at home, and I usually visit the forum when I'm at work lol) for a couple months and I don't remember for sure. I'm also not always sure what to avoid feeding in community tank situations (aside from the copper thing), so I was nervous! Thanks everyone.

@livebearerlove everyone always says zucchini! The problem is, then *I* would have to eat the rest of it! I bought all the ingredients for some snello, which I'm sure everyone in the tank will enjoy, but to be honest, I generally feed all the little dudes canned green beans. It is hilarious to see the shrimp climbing inside a green bean "skin." I tried raw spinach (frozen, then warmed, to break it down a bit), but none of the shrimp or the snails would touch it.

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It looks like they are tetra brand -- they had a weird 2nd color in the center of them, which threw me off! I had some "use it or lose it" coupon at Petsmart and I accidentally grabbed these instead of their plain algae wafers. The little dudes usually get Hikari brand algae wafers. IIRC, they didn't have an ingredients list, but to be honest, they've been at the bottom of the bin (at home, and I usually visit the forum when I'm at work lol) for a couple months and I don't remember for sure. I'm also not always sure what to avoid feeding in community tank situations (aside from the copper thing), so I was nervous! Thanks everyone.

@livebearerlove everyone always says zucchini! The problem is, then *I* would have to eat the rest of it! I bought all the ingredients for some snello, which I'm sure everyone in the tank will enjoy, but to be honest, I generally feed all the little dudes canned green beans. It is hilarious to see the shrimp climbing inside a green bean "skin." I tried raw spinach (frozen, then warmed, to break it down a bit), but none of the shrimp or the snails would touch it.
Didnt your mother tell you to eat your veggies?
I chop off a 'slice' about 1/4 inch thick. Boil it, place in freezer to cool down. Attache to a paper clip. Remove after an hour or so...
The green beans sounds interesting- Ill try that and see if they 'bite'! haha! I just dont keep canned or packages anything in the house (except for our emergency kit) as I have systemic mastocytosis- the additives/cooking/fermentation causes problems for me.

The rest of the zucchini I keep in the fridge- should keep for over a week. But yes, YOU should eat your veggies! zucchini provides potassium, magnesium, vitamins B6, riboflavin, folate, C, K, calcium and manganese. Put it in a stir fry or slice and dip it in dressing for a snack (ok... off my soap box).

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I was looking at those pleco wafers when I was trying to find a test kit yesterday. Thought they would be good for the OTOs but the ingredients list started with wheat and soy and some other wheat then some other filler stuff. I ended up not getting them. Even the algae wafers from hikari have alot of fillers in them however they do seem to enjoy them sometimes.

Everyone loves the zucchini, noone touches the spinach. Ill have to try the canned green beans.

I also make some of the repache (spelling) green, do a flat thinner wafer then freeze it in a zip lock. Break off a piece every once in a while. They seem to eat it ok.
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Didnt your mother tell you to eat your veggies?
I chop off a 'slice' about 1/4 inch thick. Boil it, place in freezer to cool down. Attache to a paper clip. Remove after an hour or so...
The green beans sounds interesting- Ill try that and see if they 'bite'! haha! I just dont keep canned or packages anything in the house (except for our emergency kit) as I have systemic mastocytosis- the additives/cooking/fermentation causes problems for me.

The rest of the zucchini I keep in the fridge- should keep for over a week. But yes, YOU should eat your veggies! zucchini provides potassium, magnesium, vitamins B6, riboflavin, folate, C, K, calcium and manganese. Put it in a stir fry or slice and dip it in dressing for a snack (ok... off my soap box).
LOL I am a happy veggie eater -- just not zucchini (unless it's cooked for me...then I use my manners and put up with it, LOL). I love spinach, squash, sprouts, broccoli, peppers, beans of all sorts, carrots, peas, etc. etc.

Canned veggies are a regular in our house mostly because that is what my husband and I grew up with, and they are super convenient. I am trying to wean us onto frozen veggies though (when we aren't on our game enough to prepare fresh...which is pretty common, sadly). We have 3 boys and are in those super busy middle/high school years. I had dinner at 9pm last night, lol.

Soapbox it up, though -- I had to yell at my husband last month and tell him that I would never apologize for insisting that their be a vegetable on the table at dinner. He thinks a chunk of meat, and maybe some potatoes are more than sufficient, lol. Also, I tell them all that potatoes are more starch than vegetable, so they don't count (shhhh, don't tell).

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I was sitting at work one day and watching the shrimp tank while eating a banana. I recalled Marc from the Marine club dropping banana in his saltwater tank and the fish loved it. So I dropped in a small chunk of the banana in the tank. It was so funny to see the shrimp go after it. They actually started fighting over it until it split in half and they each took their part to a corner and ate it.


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I was sitting at work one day and watching the shrimp tank while eating a banana. I recalled Marc from the Marine club dropping banana in his saltwater tank and the fish loved it. So I dropped in a small chunk of the banana in the tank. It was so funny to see the shrimp go after it. They actually started fighting over it until it split in half and they each took their part to a corner and ate it.


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ooh, we always have banana laying around -- I'll have to try it!

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I was looking at those pleco wafers when I was trying to find a test kit yesterday. Thought they would be good for the OTOs but the ingredients list started with wheat and soy and some other wheat then some other filler stuff. I ended up not getting them. Even the algae wafers from hikari have alot of fillers in them however they do seem to enjoy them sometimes.

Everyone loves the zucchini, noone touches the spinach. Ill have to try the canned green beans.

I also make some of the repache (spelling) green, do a flat thinner wafer then freeze it in a zip lock. Break off a piece every once in a while. They seem to eat it ok.
Good to know! I probably won't buy them again, but I'll use them up to be thrifty! I'm contemplating attempting an algae-growing-on-rocks experiment in my window...I think the otos, shrimp, mystery snails, nerite snail, pest snails, and twig catfish are running out of food! If only they'd eat the GSA... *sigh*

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I have always preferred the Omega One products. A bit more expensive, but high quality. Take a look at the ingredient list...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Also, I tell them all that potatoes are more starch than vegetable, so they don't count (shhhh, don't tell).
HA! I got a good chuckle from that! When I was in university, I was getting my Master in Science- focusing on biology- somehow I got really into food/cuisine/anthropology... and then, and then.... I am a chef/restaurateur and moonlight as a nutritionist (living in so many countries I had to change careers multiple times).... so I could chat all day long. I suppose that is why my fish are so well fed



Try feeding your fish fresh... you might pick up the habit If anything get a mandolin. Slice them thin and add them to salad like a cucumber. Nommmie!

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I have always preferred the Omega One products. A bit more expensive, but high quality. Take a look at the ingredient list...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I will spring for these next time, thx!
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I have always preferred the Omega One products. A bit more expensive, but high quality. Take a look at the ingredient list...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not to Hijack this post.... but it is on a wet/dry matter measure (similar to dog food). When baked at a extreme temp the nutritional properties diminish substantially in progeins. In this case, I actually took it from their website.... that company does the same thing, worse even on a wet/dry matter basis measurement.

Ingredients:
Salmon, Whole Herring, Wheat Germ, Wheat Flour, Kelp, Rice Bran, Spirulina, Pea Protein, Whole Shrimp, Astaxanthin, Canthaxanthin, Potassium Sorbate, Ethoxyquin A1:Q19 BHT (Preservative), BHA (Preservative), Natural and Artificial Colors, Ascorbyl Monophosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Niacin, Inositol, Folic Acid, Biotin, Riboflavin, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement.



Guaranteed Analysis:
Min. Crude Protein….35%
Min. Crude Fat……….10%
Max. Crude Fiber…….4%
Max. Moisture………. 8.5%
Max. Ash……………..9%


Breaking it down- it is mostly made of wheat. Yucky.

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