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filtration? is this acceptable

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30-40 gallon filter, filter floss bag stuffed with seachem matrix
15 gallon tank filter submersible- filter floss bag stuffed with matrix



20 gallon hex high
30-40 gallon filter, filter floss bag stuffed with seachem matrix with purigen bag added to extra space in back.
15 gallon tank filter submersible- filter floss bag stuffed with matrix



I figure this replicates canister filters and picks up the sludge before it can attach to the matrix balls?

The one issue i'm having is filthy filter pads on the 20 gallon long, the floss is perpetually dirty, but the tank is clean and the plants and fish are flourishing. Everything ok with this setup?


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I figure this replicates canister filters and picks up the sludge before it can attach to the matrix balls?

The one issue i'm having is filthy filter pads on the 20 gallon long, the floss is perpetually dirty, but the tank is clean and the plants and fish are flourishing. Everything ok with this setup?
So, you have two 20-gal tanks and one HOB filter rated for 30-40 gallons and one 15-gal air-driven filter in each tank. Right?

When you say “filter floss bag stuffed with matrix”, does this mean you are using Seachem Matrix and placing it into a filter bag of some sort? Are you also using some kind of bio-balls? Is the mechanical filtration a floss that you are stuffing into each filter or is there a filter pad of some type?

Might help if you describe the layers, e.g.; water enters a filter pad, then Matrix (or bio-balls), then filter floss (again?), then Purigen.

Broadly speaking, I'm not sure what the intent is to try to make an HOB do what a canister does. The HOB should be fine when used according to directions. It is important to keep the filter clean. I need to clean my filter weekly (29-gal) and, when I do, I squeeze out all gunk as much as possible and replace it monthly.
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but the tank is clean and the plants and fish are flourishing.



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Dirty filter pads are a sign that your filter is collecting and trapping that dirt rather than keeping or returning it to your tank.

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If anything, you may be over filtering. Polyester filter fiber works well but is a bit old school. I prefer sponge/bio-sponge material. I've used Matrix/De*Nitrate (and still do in a 4 stage DIY bucket trickle filter), but much prefer bio-sponge. Matrix/De*Nitrate is pumice stone (a type of lava rock). Unfortunately what I received also contained a fair amount of regular gravel/stone. Sorry, headed out on a tangent!
If the clarity of your water is good, then you are fine. You might experiment running w/o the submersible filter(s) as I think your HOBs should do the job fine. You may want/need to service more often just to get the detritus out of the system....the trouble with filters is they just trap the crud where it continues to decompose and pollute the water - they make the water look cleaner, but it's really not!
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