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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 10-27-2018, 07:23 AM Thread Starter
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Hi Guys,
Hoping someone may be able to help
i have a 1200 litre setup with tank plumbed with a direct pipe to sewer from bottom and a tap above,
it was originally setup as saltwater tank but in the last 5 or so months i have been converted it to a freshwater planted tank cycled and aquascaped with plants for three months then added 50 Neon tetra's plants and fish have been doing great have C02 injection and running a sump
PH: 6.5
temp:28 deg
amonia :0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate :<10
KH: 3
GH:4
i have only yesterday added 3 large 6-7 inch discus that seem to be doing okay but look a ,little stressed and are hanging out near the top of the tank not gasping for at the surface nor are they breathing fast, im guessing it will take a little bit to get used to new enviroment.
Question:
i know i can...... but is it advisable to drain water at the same type have tap running from above refilling
i dose Prime then let the water exchange over 1 hr period ( and i do it slowly so i dont have huge change in temp and PH )i estimate that to be 25% thoughts????

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Maybe reverse the question.

Is there a reason you are concerned with draining while filling?
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Thanks for the reply @psychofisho
its not so much of a concern but more of, is it right or better, over a drain and later refill process ?
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I don't know where the inlet is relative to the outlet/drain, but in some cases, some of the new water can exit with the old. This would decrease the effectiveness of the water change. If not the case, then it probably doesn't matter and would be about the same as a drip/overflow system.

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Its probably better to measure and the water coming out exactly or else there's no way to discern how much water is actually being replaced. Changing water is the best way to avoid illness in your discus and neons (both sensitive to pathogens in the water). By replacing a percentage of water regularly it keeps whatever could be (and probably is) in your water at a level your fish's immune system can cope with. Ich ocurrs in the wild everywhere for example but because it gets dispersed over such a massive expanse in nature we seldom see fish in the wild covered in spots. The only way to reproduce this in the home aquarium is by changing water. I know people who even do it twice a week. Depends on what you're working with etc. Discus are notoriously timid when first introduced. Keep the light low for them and floating plants are good for this. They like to gather in weeds. Good luck

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@AbbeysDad the inlet and outlet are on opposite ends the inlet will gor through the sump filteration and back through the retuirn pump as the outlet is on 3 meters to the opposite end of the tank and plumbed to the boittom of the tank

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I would love to see a pic. Just snap and click the paperclip at the top. Being in the world for a while ive matured to creating a system with very low need for having to alter anything. I pride myself with minimal to no water changes. I try to look at every bio system and minimoze any need for intervention. After my initial water changea for a new setup I plan to rarely ever change the water.. (Low bio load).. In the past this has worked nicely..
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here are the pics !
learn something new everyday lol

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It's a great view for you but I doubt discus will really feel too comfortable in there. They love being in ponds outside though I realize not everyone can give them this. Depends if you're planning on breeding them or not. When they're outside in a pond you can't really see them/enjoy them as much but they're behavior really changes in a more natural environment. They love it out there

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I'd put a bunch of giant val in that tank so they could hide when people walk by but that's just me

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I love it! Your refugion looks top notch... But you need so many more plants for amazonia species.
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Add some natural manzanita and more plants.. I love it.
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I went iwagumi and making sure my plant parameters meet my fish parameters.
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Just a little comparison from June 2018 to now
i have c02 Injection since August

Bump: @splattered i agree as you can see in the piucs from june i had Vals but they didnt do so well !!
i will try again though not sure why when everything else was fine

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