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This was originally going to be a Reef Tank. I've decided to go the planted tank route instead.
Outside dimensions of the tank are 24x24x21.

The problem is the overflow and how to utilize it properly, or not utilize at all. The overflow is a fixed piece and will not be removed. There are 3 drilled holes inside the bottom of the overflow.

I thought about using the overflow as a built-in planter. Pack it full of substrate and grow something out of it. Maybe drill holes into the wall of the overflow to promote water flow. Good idea or bad idea?

I don't want to use a sump. That the current plan anyhow. I've got a Eheim cannister already.

I'm short on ideas... please help me out.

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If money were no object, I'd say sell the tank and replace it with a tank without a built in overflow.

Since that's not likely to be a solution, and you want to use a canister filter on the tank, I'd put plugs in the plumbing, and put some substrata in the overflow and try growing tall plants that can grow over the top of the overflow. Removing the overflow could be done, but you might want to use it in the future. Using a sump will allow a much cleaner looking tank, since it will not have all the tubes and such running around.
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You can connect the canister intake to the overflow, either by placing the intake u-tube into the overflow or connect the intake tubing to one of the overflow drains.

This will let you hide the heater and other equipment in the overflow. The overflow water level will be somewhat sensitive to evaporation, but if you fill the tank fairly high to begin with it won't be a problem.

You can place a basket of substrate in the overflow and grow plants out of the water, but I would discourage going that route. Mixing aquatic and terrestrial growth makes it very difficult to light the tank properly. The terrestrial plant will also fill the overflow with roots, so you won't be able to hide any equipment in there without making access extremely messy.

TBH I would consider cutting out the overflow myself. The tank dimensions are challenging to begin with and that overflow looks like it takes a lot of useful space.


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If money were no object, I'd say sell the tank and replace it with a tank without a built in overflow.

Since that's not likely to be a solution, and you want to use a canister filter on the tank, I'd put plugs in the plumbing, and put some substrata in the overflow and try growing tall plants that can grow over the top of the overflow. Removing the overflow could be done, but you might want to use it in the future. Using a sump will allow a much cleaner looking tank, since it will not have all the tubes and such running around.
I may go out and price a new smaller tank. Smaller maybe better in this case.

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You can connect the canister intake to the overflow, either by placing the intake u-tube into the overflow or connect the intake tubing to one of the overflow drains.

This will let you hide the heater and other equipment in the overflow. The overflow water level will be somewhat sensitive to evaporation, but if you fill the tank fairly high to begin with it won't be a problem.

You can place a basket of substrate in the overflow and grow plants out of the water, but I would discourage going that route. Mixing aquatic and terrestrial growth makes it very difficult to light the tank properly. The terrestrial plant will also fill the overflow with roots, so you won't be able to hide any equipment in there without making access extremely messy.

TBH I would consider cutting out the overflow myself. The tank dimensions are challenging to begin with and that overflow looks like it takes a lot of useful space.
I've explored removing the overflow. I would move forward if I could remove absolutely all the silicone without scratching up the glass.
I may go smaller and sell the tank.

Thanks everyone!
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If money were no object, I'd say sell the tank and replace it with a tank without a built in overflow.

Just curious why you'd say that. Granted, I don't like overflows, as it's a place for fish to jump into.


But at the same time, I don't like having my heater, and thermometer in my display tank. I really do like the thought of having a sump - you don't have to disturb your animals when doing water changes, it hides your equipment, etc.


So, I'm on the fence....just curious why you're on that side...

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I'm not "on that side". The OP didn't want an overflow and sump. If you remove an overflow from a tank, the tank is still going to look patched up. If you replace the overflow, you get a clean looking install.
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Originally, it's not that I did not want my overflow, it's that I needed ideas to utilize my overflow .
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