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Question Put new plants & new fish in tank at same time?

I'll be setting my Fluval Ebi up soon & will have some live plants, a couple fish & a few shrimp in there.

I'll, most likely, have to mail order the shrimp.

I should be able to grab the plants & fish locally. Once I have the tank cycled & at a good ph level, will I be ok introducing the live plants to it with the fish @ the same time or should I do these seperately?

Also, feel free to suggest low to moderate light plants.
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I would put in the plants right when you setup the tank. Once your tank is fully cycled add the shrimp then a week later or so add the fish.
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I like Brad's plan. Put the plants in right-away and throw 1 cooked or raw shrimp from the supermarket in to get the cycle going. If it starts to smell or look nasty pull-it. This will get the cycle going. Even better, get a used filter from another persons tank that has the bacteria already in it. Remember, to a certain extent, your plants ARE part of your filtration.

Get yourself an amonia test-kit. Once the amonia subsides, THEN start adding fish & shrimp slowly.
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I like Brad's plan. Put the plants in right-away and throw 1 cooked or raw shrimp from the supermarket in to get the cycle going. If it starts to smell or look nasty pull-it. This will get the cycle going. Even better, get a used filter from another persons tank that has the bacteria already in it. Remember, to a certain extent, your plants ARE part of your filtration.

Get yourself an amonia test-kit. Once the amonia subsides, THEN start adding fish & shrimp slowly.
Already have an APi master test kit.
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Plants love ammonia, whenever I personally set up a new system I stuff it with fast growing easy plants, and begin to add fish (only one or two at a time over many weeks). The cycle is easier on fish with fast growing plants present.

As magicman stated, ask a friend or a LFS for some used filter media, that will absolutely get you rolling with some beneficial bacteria.

Seachem stability is a good liquid bacteria as well, speeds up cycling.

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Plants love ammonia, whenever I personally set up a new system I stuff it with fast growing easy plants, and begin to add fish (only one or two at a time over many weeks). The cycle is easier on fish with fast growing plants present.

As magicman stated, ask a friend or a LFS for some used filter media, that will absolutely get you rolling with some beneficial bacteria.

Seachem stability is a good liquid bacteria as well, speeds up cycling.

+1. Did the same. Plants for 2 weeks to make sure they were surviving, then a small group of fish at a time. Established filter material helps. Lots of fasting growing plants will soak up that ammonia.
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that's how i did mine as well. no losses and my plants are better than ever.
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Using household ammonia for cycling is great if doing a fishless cycle, just be careful how much you add.


My typical way of cycling a plant tank is to load it with plants and get the CO2 bubbling (give it a few days to "sweeten" and get good oxygen and CO2 levels, and for you to get the temp properly dialed in).

After the plants have been in for a couple days, you can add a few fish, but only add a few hardy fish and don't overfeed.


Frequently I never see the first hint of ammonia or nitrite. Always increase bioload gently this way.
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