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Hey guys, I have set up my 120 gallon planted tank for almost two weeks now. Two of my plants have not been doing as expected. The ludwigia and the rotala h'ra. The ludwigia's lower leaves are kind of falling and accumulating a "spikey" algae. The Rotala are falling onto each other and the lower leaves are melting. I have been dosing daily and have two 48" fluval 3.0 fresh and plant fixtures. Also, the water is still very cloudy and just got much worse when I did a water change and added some more plants. The bolbitis was melting but I have seen new growth. The wood has been accumulating some white stuff. What should I do about it?

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As a guess.. looks like fungus on the wood and a heterotrophic bacterial bloom.
Both of which are relatively harmless. Both of which are feasting on free organics..

Bacteria can chew up oxygen so good aeration is important if you have any livestock.
bloom may get worse before better..

Should be checking your ammonia levels though. That can burn plants.

As to more on the plants I'll let others chime in.

Personally, since the tank is only 2 weeks old.. I'd take a wait and see attitude..

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Sounds good! @jeffkrol , should I do anything about the wood or should I just leave it there and it will disappear by itself? Also, any ideas on what I can do to clear the water up? And I added 4ppm of ammonia to start tge cycle. Is that fine?
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My bacteria blooms always cleared naturally (Only had a few, though one was quite intense) and don't use driftwood but having a lot of dealings w/ fungus in general, as soon as the foods gone it's gone.
That, depending on the wood content, could be fast or long.

I'm no expert in cycling so I'll defer on that question. Most of my cycling is done w/ seeded media Seachem Prime , some livestock and nature.
Never takes very long that way.

As long as you just have plants in there and monitoring ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate why add stuff??

Used pure ammonia right? not the stuff w/ surfectants/perfumes..
AFAICT fishless cycling doesn't usually include plants. ammonia can burn plants.
Current death/decay rate is probably enough to jump start the cycle now.. as is..

A resource.. One of dozens..
https://www.cpp.edu/~jskoga/Aquariums/Ammonia.html

Kind of like this one. The idea of the disc (used them in the past) saves dipping tubes and testing or expensive strips.

BTW: What is your current pH.

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What are your Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate levels at right now?

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Yeah @jeffkrol , I think I will just let the fungus be. It got much worse today so I think it might get better soon. @Koenig44 and Jeff, these are my water parameters.
Ammonia 3.5ppm
Nitrite 0ppm
Nitrate 0ppm
pH 6.6
KH 1
GH 4

I am really worried about the kh and gh. Should I increase them? If this means anything, I will be having Amano shrimp in the future.
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You apparently haven't even begun to cycle yet.. Wouldn't mess w/ anything till 1) You get Nitrites and 2)You then get nitrates..

Oddly, can't find what level of ammonia would cause damage..
Lot of suppositions though..

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