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Unhappy Emergency...ferts and small children :(

hello all.
i guess the title says it all really.

i have a small 7 month old baby girl...
she's reached the crawling age and anything she gets ahold of she puts straight into her mouth...
my problem is, is i had 2 or 3 small JBL plant fert tablets by my fish tank, they wer there from when i was cleaning up around my tank.
i no longer have the packaging in which the tablets wer in, so i cant describe what was really in them...but you can have a fairly good idea as ther for plants.
anyway...i dont know if she ate them or not..as i only found small crumbs around the floor...if she has eaten them will it do any major harm to her?
of should it just pass threw her?
im MAJORLY worried and need an answer from somebody that knows about ferts...
need an answer asap...
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Well um, I'd say she'd be okay it probably low concetration, BUT she is a small child so I wouldn't risk it and either call you Poison control Center hot line or bring her to the doc so she can like drink a nasty thing of activated carbon. If she wasn't so young I wouldn't be so concerned, but she is so young and her weight is probably very little so the ferts might harm her. BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY, especially for her...

Tldr... GO to the doctor now, or call the Poison Control Center fast.
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with a small child its always good to have a bottle of ipecac for this reason. if there is no signs i wouldnt worry to much but i would keep an eye out for anything out of the ordinary. i would still call asap and see what they say as they will know more than any of us. but let this be a lesson to always have a bottle of ipecac on hand might save a life its cheap to.
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I thought Ipecac no longer available... at least that's what my Pharmacology teacher told us.
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Honestly, activated carbon is also good to have around the house as well. I just don't know how you'd get a baby to eat it.
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with a small child its always good to have a bottle of ipecac for this reason. if there is no signs i wouldnt worry to much but i would keep an eye out for anything out of the ordinary. i would still call asap and see what they say as they will know more than any of us. but let this be a lesson to always have a bottle of ipecac on hand might save a life its cheap to.
Do NOT use ipecac on small children. You are much more likely to cause dehydration and aspiration pneumonia in children this size than any good.

Call poison control. Try to google the package or MSDS. Contact your doctor.

Ipecac is no longer used in modern medicine for all of the above reasons.
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Honestly, activated carbon is also good to have around the house as well. I just don't know how you'd get a baby to eat it.
Another thing that is very rarely used and if you need Activated carbon for poisoning you need an emergency room.

Doctors use NG tubes to suck this crud out now. AC is next to impossible to get into someones stomach without an NG tube. It just results in a black staining vomit everywhere. We carry it in ambulances by law, but NEVER use it. Ever.
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i know no exatly what ferts they wer! :O
i got my original assumption wrong.
what they actually wer, was
"TETRAPLANT CRYPTO TABLETS"
now what do you think i should do?
atm she is asleep and still breathing, and is ok what should i do?
please help!!!
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We use activated charcoal in the hospital where I work. Depends on the case. I've heard it doesn't taste too bad because its mixed with sorbitol which is sweet. I've seen plenty of babies with it all over their faces :-)

Ipecac isn't use anymore also because the severe vomiting can cause rips in the esophagus.

Iron in adult doses can be deadly to children, but I doubt those had that much iron. Children under 1 can get nitrate poisoning too

I'd find an MSDS sheet and call poison control just in case. I couldn't even find JBJ Plant Fert tabs online.
http://www.who.int/ipcs/poisons/cent...ctory/euro/en/
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Call a Dr. right away in my opinion. Better to be on the safe side.
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Looking for information on Tetra Crypto. I did find this:

Free of nitrate and phosphates - does not encourage algae.
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its 2:06am here in england so i cnt call a doctor now...would have to wait until morning
she should be ok as she is fast asleep and still breathing.
been keeping check on her temperature and her breathing niether have changed.
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BEN BELTON I REALLY DONT THINK ALGEA IS A CONCERN FOR ME RIGHT NOW, I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT MY TANK RIGHT NOW ITS MY DAUGHTER IM MORE WORRIED ABOUT!
AND SHE'S HARDLY GONNA HAVE ANY ALGEA GROWING IN HER IS SHE!

altho if its free of nitrate and phosphate...thats one good thing right?
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you must have poison control center.

http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/
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BEN BELTON I REALLY DONT THINK ALGEA IS A CONCERN FOR ME RIGHT NOW, I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT MY TANK RIGHT NOW ITS MY DAUGHTER IM MORE WORRIED ABOUT!
AND SHE'S HARDLY GONNA HAVE ANY ALGEA GROWING IN HER IS SHE!

altho if its free of nitrate and phosphate...thats one good thing right?
Ben was referencing that there was no nitrate or phosphate.... quoting what their info said....
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