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post #16 of 31 (permalink) Old 02-19-2018, 05:04 AM Thread Starter
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One of the things your going to find out sooner or later is that it doesn't make too much difference in the media you use. Sure, you need some sort of mechanical filtration to keep particulate matter out of the rest of the media, and some sort of biological media, and optionally, some sort of chemical media. It's also true that some media choices are better than others, but I think you'll find that while they are better, they are not that much better.

I would avoid reef rubble rock only because it can raise Ph.
you know i was thinking the same, but better to ask and see if there are any must have or stay away from.
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thanks guys, I'll look in to poret foam.
ah yes I forgot about pumice my brain is overloaded with all the researching. I think I may making this harder than it needs to be :/

any idea where to get bulk pumice?

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pretty much what everyone here does.

1st stage: Course foam 1.5-2" thick sitting ontop of medium filter pad 1/4-.5" thick
2nd Stage: bio balls and purigen
3rd stage: poly fill for a polish

been setting it up like this a good bit before planted tanks were even a thought. Only difference is I had some carbon/ammonia balls mixed in with the bio balls.

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I have a 306 running with Purigen in the initial chamber, and the rest of the chambers contain a mix of ceramic rings and lava rock. Didn't feel like spending $5+ for more rings, so I sifted my Eco-complete (lava rock) and put the larger bits in the filter.

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thanks for the feedback everyone! that clears things up...pun intended :p
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I run all my Eheim's with OEM media + purigen. So in order - Eheim Mech, blue sponge, Eheim Substrat Pro, filter floss pad and finally Purigen.
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Since I just cleaned my canister filter on Sunday I can confirm that there are baby snails and baby RCS in my canister filter...

Other items (bottom to top, water flow is same direction).
Course filter pad
Fine filter pad / polyfill
Bio-media
Purigen

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I have a makeshift Zoomed 501 canister for my 10 Gallon planted tank. Naturally, I didn't keep any of the contents, and built my own.

I have a custom cut sponge layer>2 filter floss layers>way too much Purigen> then, on the outboard side of the canister, I have the other half of the canister full of Matrix (way more than needed).

Sponge= Mechanical and bio filter, really there to catch the plant stuff
Filter floss= Water polishing and more filtration for finer particles
Purigen in a bag= mooooore polishing!
Matrix= tonnnns of bio filtration! I chose matrix because of the surface area it provides.

Although I don't suggest this for a 10G planted tank as it is WAY overkill, but I can promise your tank will look like it's filled with air! lol
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This is what I run and where I got it.
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This is what I run and where I got it.
what size should I get? I am between the 3/16" and 3/8"
by chance anyone have a pic of there pumice?

also a 15# bag seams like a tons. I never have to replace it right? I know its light weight and somewhat fragile but as long as I am not overly aggressive it should last many many years.
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Different sponges and sintered glass balls (Eheim substrat pro). That's it. I used to use Purigen too but stopped since I don't mind tinted water.
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I can try and take some pics this afternoon. It's been a while but I ordered 2 bags and I think those are the sizes. I got the smaller size for succulent planting and the larger for filter media.
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Nothing. I use my canister filter as a pump for my reverse undergravel filter that has 50lb of sand and 5lb of lavarock, in a 55. My water is clear is can be. The only thing is you have to clean the junk out the sand every now and then, but tit makes for incredible mech- and bio- filtration.
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I don't have a canister filter but after many decades in the hobby I'm convinced that sponge material is the best mechanical AND bio-media platform there is. Efficient, inexpensive, easily cleaned, and lasts forever and a day. I have two AC70 HOB filters on my 60g filled with sponge material - making them HOB sponge filters. I do run a Marineland Magnum Internal Polishing Filter with the micron filter cartridge charged with diatomaceous earth for several hours each week following the partial water changes resulting in super crystal clarity.

For the basement turtle pond I have a 4 stage DIY bucket trickle filter. Sponge->Filter Pads->Polyester Fiber->Pot Scrubbies->Matrix/DeNitrate. (I used the Matrix/DeNitrate because I had it lying around after giving up on it for the aquarium. I can't say if it does anything to reduce nitrates, but the filter works great at keeping the water clean [and turtles can be messy!])

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Ceramic rings, bio balls (were free) and filter floss. My water is very clear, no need for carbon (it doesnt last long and will leach out whatever it absorbs in a couple weeks anyway.) Purigen is good stuff, I used it for tannin control in a different set up but found little need to use it aside from that. I like tannins these days anyway. A strong bacteria colony is the best filter, filter floss or poly pad can catch all debris.
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