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Hello! I'm new to the planted hobby and I'm starting a 29 gallon aquarium. I was thinking about stocking the aquarium with some smaller fish that I have, neon tetras and a few platys (I plan on getting some more such as a dwarf gourami and panda corys), before I actually planted it. The reason is because it's pretty hot where I am and I start school in a week so I don't want the plants to roast in the sun while I'm gone. Would it be ok for me to do this? Also, I understand the cycling deal, but how do I actually do it?
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I usually plant new tanks while they are cycling, as it gives me something to do with the tank for the month or two until that's finished. Are you worried about them baking from shipment?
There are many ways to cycle a tank, how you do it will depend on your style. I used pure liquid ammonia and several bottle bacteria supplements. I can go into detail if you like.


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Yeah, I don't want them to arrive in the morning and me be gone for around 8-10 hours and have wasted money on them. I might run to the PetSmart near my house and get some Anubias Nana Petite and a few Banana Plants if they have them. Also, if you don't mind explaining how you cycle your tanks for me.
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I set it all up and got it all running. I dosed ammonia to 1 ppm. I have used seachem stability, tss, tss+, fluval cycle, and dr Tims one and only. Can't really say any of them were effective definitively.
Dose to 1, and wait. Test daily or every other day for ammonia. When it drops to 0, test your nitrite. Don't dose any more ammonia yet. When nitrite drops to .25 or lower, dose ammonia back to 1 ppm. Test ammonia and nitrite. Don't let either one get above 4 ppm. If they do, do a large enough water change to get them down close to 0, then dose ammonia back to 1 ppm.
Once the ammonia and nitrite drop to 0 within 24 hours of dosing, you are cycled (this will take weeks). At this point you can up the dose to 2 ppm and continue to test for it to drop back to 0. This will allow you to stock more fish at once without ammonia or nitrite spiking. Or you can add a small number of fish and gradually stock your tank.
My first tank I cycled to 2.5 ppm before I added 10 fish at once. No spikes. Gradually added more fish from there.
On my second tank I started with seeded media, which sped up the cycle but it still took a few weeks. I currently have it cycled to 6 ppm, but I haven't started stocking yet. I lost all the fish in my original order during shipment.


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On my other tank, I have a regular HOB with a slot to slide in a filter cartridge. Is there any way I can seed the media in that tank? If so, I might do that and add a small number of fish slowly over time, along with plants once the temperature cools down.
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