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restarting my tank again

i have a 48" x 18" x 18' bay fronted tank and was going to restart it again with plants and discus again. i was just concerned about a few things?

i was going to use substrate cable heating but my understanding is that to get the desired effect of this the substrate heater is suppose to be 2 degrees hotter than the water temp but with keeping the discus i like to keep the water temprature at or above 28 degrees (82F) and i belive this to be to high for the plants to survive. i also plan to use Co2 this time around. the lighting i have is compact flouro which is capable of delivering 220 watts all up from 4 tubes.

Not sure of the substrate i will be using but must be black in colour and will be using an ehiem canister filter not sure what size yet but will be capable of at least a 400l tank. Any help would be appreciated but being from Australia some products may be hard to get. i already have some materials for the hardscape being a large mangrove stump and also a large rock which i will put pitcures up of when i get a chance.
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why do you need a substrate heater? if your water temp is 28C that is sufficient.

For substrate i first choice is aquasoil or eco-complete.

For the filter, checkout on the web but my fav is eheim pro II

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my LFS suggested it to me because if there is no substrate heating the substrate may become anaerobic in places. the heating in the substrate also gives currents that allow movement of nutrients around roots. this may be old school stuff but was planing on this being a long term project not just a 12 month scape and then tear it down.

Need to find out if those substrates are avalible in australia. who makes them this might help me a little if you can provide this info?

The filter sounds like a winner but may stick with the classic but will look at the pro.

Another thing is UV helpful in a planted tank or will it be a waste?

Thanks for your help so far.
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About your substrate question:

Aquasoil is made by ADA (Aqua Design Amano)
http://www.adana.co.jp/index_e.php

Eco-Complete is made by Carib Sea
http://www.caribsea.com/pages/produc...ted_aquar.html
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Heating the substrate will not help in any way in avoiding anaerobic spots. On the other hand because of the heat the plant roots will shy away from the hotter areas and cause anaerobic areas (plant roots pump oxygen into the soil causing it to become aerobic). It would be much better if you stick to heating the water column only or if you don't intend to plant - go for a shallow substrate.

UV on the output line of your filter may help you for the discus you intend to keep but not necessary absolutely.

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thxs armonious will try the ADA substrate i think as i am going to be using some of there other products in my CO2 system

Essabee i think i'm going to spend the money on a very trick looking Co2 system rather than the substrate heating as have been doing some more reading around this fourm and also tom barrs and belive the LFS are living in the past and just after more cash.

i will be using a in line 300w hydor heater so trying to keep eyesores in the tank to a minimum thanks to all so far for the help will be doing a journal when i finally get everything and put tank together so hop this help and advice continues.

May leave out Uv as well unless i get to much greenish water. generally run peat in my filter to help with lower ph but due to plants this may not be possible this time around help with this would be much appreciated?
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