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using root tabs to fert moss

I have a 10 gal that I do not dose but put root tabs for my anacharis and microsword and they grow like crazy.

I am trying to make a carpet of javamoss using needle point mesh and I was wondering if I would shove some root tabs in the mesh with the java moss if it would help or hurt my situation.

Being that they wouldn't be under the soil will it affect anything?
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i wouldnt bother with root tabs at all. for anything in your tank. i definately wouldnt use them for moss.

my 2 cents is to stop with your root tabs and pay attention to your water column
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Yeah Java moss doesn't really care about root tabs. It really wont care about anything, but it will be able to absorb fertilizer through the water column (it has no root system).
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Yea root tabs won't do anything for mosses.
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or anacharis.

microswords could use them but will be fine without them
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I'm not big into dosing and i'm not putting c02 on my tank. What is the one fert that I can put in to dose the water column?

I've used the n and m from pfertz at home but they are fairly pricey. I don't dose every day and i'm not doing the EL dosing stuff.

Any suggestions on what I should dose for the java moss to take off.
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Just light to be honest.
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java moss doesnt need much to grow.

i dont know what you want me to say. you say that you dont want to be big on dosing, you dont want to do ei, you dont want co2 (prob not needed anyway). but then you say that you want it to take off. if you want plants to take off you need a little effort, otherwise just let them grow and hope for the best
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Just use Excel to help with algae.

What substrate are you planning on using?


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Since you're not using CO2, you must be using relatively low light.

Low light and low CO2 will naturally limit your growth rate. So patience is in order. Once the java moss doubles in size, however long that takes, it can double again in the same time period. And then double again, and so on. Just takes time.

I wouldn't waste the root tabs on the moss. Use it on plants that are known to appreciate them. Continue using them on the micro sword if you like, since it seems to be working.

I just looked at Pfertz for the first time and WOW, they are expensive. Unless they're including some New Orleans voodoo plant magic I would never pay that. The Flourish line will do just fine.

Plain Flourish supplies your iron and micros, and would be equivalent to Pfertz M. Flourish Nitrogen would be equivalent to Pfertz N. But with low light/CO2 and a medium to high fish load, nitrogen (and phosphorus) may not be necessary. What I do see missing is potassium, which would be Flourish Potassium/Pfertz K. But don't expect any miracles from adding it.

Normal doses of Flourish Excel would work as a partial CO2 replacement, but be warned - anacharis doesn't like it. If you try it, skip the larger initial dose, and start at only a fraction of the normal dose. Ramp it up slowly over time. This gives the anacharis time to adapt and usually keeps it from dying. The anacharis may still grow slower than normal, while everything else will grow faster.
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Excel sounds exactly like what I need. My anacharis grows like crazy so I would mind stunting it's growth.

I'll look at the flourish line of products and use the equivalent of what I have at home. At home I don't dose everyday. I just throw some in every once and a while and my plants look great.
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Anacharis may even melt when exposed to Excel. Be careful using it.
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