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Proposed 220 gallon setup

So still in the process of finalizing my tank design for my 220
dimensions 7 * 2 * 2

Equipment wise I am thinking of running my T5 HO's in this config
Bank 1
----------48--10k----- --------36--10k----
----------48---Gro---- --------36--10k----
Bank 2
--------36---10k--- ----------48---Gro----
--------36---10k--- ----------48---10k----
I figure I'll have bank 1 kick on at 10:00 and off at 9:00
bank 2 will kick on at 12:00 and off at 7:00
the lights are retros and mounted about 16 inches off the surface of the water

My system is drilled and I will be using my sump, plan to run only about 500 GPH through it so as to not disturb the water too much, with a split return in the tank

I currently have a pair of Koralia 2's and I plan to place one at each end of the tank for some extra flow

substrate is going to be pure flourite, 50/50 mix of brown and red

no Co2 system, going to dose with trace ferts

plants are going to be a mix of stems, swords, anubias and java ferns, crypts and dwarf baby tears (HC i believe is the right abr.)

fish will be small schoolers like neons and hq rasboras along with some bigger fish like gouramis and angels.

I am really trying to keep this tank as low maint as possible, I'll be doing 50 gallon WC's once a month

what does everyone think?


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Nothing better than a large tank with lots of very small fish in my opinion. I just don't know about going without CO2. You will have to watch the light levels.


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I'm pretty sure you're only going to end up running one bank of bulbs for a very short photoperiod without CO2 on this tank. I'd actually downgrade to T5NOs rather than T5HOs if you're sure you want to stay low tech.

I'd also stagger which rows of bulbs are on your banks for better light coverage when you're only running one bank of bulbs, like this:

Row 1 = bank 1
Row 2 = bank 2
Row 3 = bank 1
Row 4 = bank 2





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Unforunatly the Retros are 2 bulb units so I cannot stagger them like you mentioned, however I do have another Idea, which would be to run the back bank from 10:00 to 3:00 and the front bank from 2:00 till 9:00, that somewhat simulate the sun moving during the day as well as only have both banks running for 1 hour of the day to simulate the brightest part of the day.


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You have WAY too much light...
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I agree about the CO2, spare on the lights and spend on the gas.
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I already have the lights from my reef system so its more of making them work for my scenario. Thats why I think running them in alternating patters will work best, then I will only ever have 2 rows of T5's running at one time, plus the bulbs will last twice as long.


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I probably wouldn't turn the sump pump down, no reason to limit circulation. Just cover the sump and have the intake to the sump under the surface so there isn't any turbulence.

Lights are going to be over 3 feet from the substrate. I start by running half the lights at a time for a total of 8 hours though, the other half of the tank will still be lit somewhat anyway. Hours you are in the room with the tank I might have all the bulbs lit up though. I do like to see what is in the tank.

Distance from substrate to bulb makes a big difference.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/li...t5-t12-pc.html

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Unforunatly the Retros are 2 bulb units so I cannot stagger them like you mentioned, however I do have another Idea, which would be to run the back bank from 10:00 to 3:00 and the front bank from 2:00 till 9:00, that somewhat simulate the sun moving during the day as well as only have both banks running for 1 hour of the day to simulate the brightest part of the day.
That sounds like a workable plan to me.

And turbulence in your sump isn't an issue if you're not injecting CO2 into the tank in the first place, so no worries there.

I agree that you'll want lots of flow in the tank, you want to avoid dead spots in planted tanks same as in reef tanks- just in planted tanks, the plants themselves will block flow as they fill in so you've got one more dynamic to work with.





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just a point of reference... I have a 135 with 2 banks of T5HO, each bank as 2 bulbs for a total of 4 bulbs (5ft 80w each) and pressurized CO2. I only run 1 bank of lights at a time as I found this was too much light.

I would go with either the T5NO, only 2 bulbs of T5HO, or T8 lighting with no CO2. Which ever you choose, ensure you space them so you have light over the full tank.

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I am going to go with having only 2 bulbs on at a time but switching between banks halfway through the day.


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I'd also start with about an 8 hour total photoperiod (~4 hours each bank) and adjust from there.





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Here are 2 pieces of Manzanita that I just ordered, should be here on monday to start soaking

Piece 1 G16






Piece 2 F14





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Those are some great peices!

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