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Pine Drift Wood?

I have heard some things about Needle trees releasing resine (sap) into the water if used as Drift Wood.

My fist question: Is this a fact? Can someone share a link?

Second and more important question: I went hiking up to some glaciers deep in the Uinta mountains and found some amazing pieces of drift wood. The wood has likely been up there for 10+ years... The pieces are sun bleached white and have probably been through hell over the years. Chances are its Pine (or a similar tree sp.) Will wood of that age leach (possible) resin/sap into the water?

My gut tells me wood of that age would be fine no matter what.

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IDK about the resins in the wood, but pine is a softwood, so it might not last as long as manzy or other hardwoods.

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IDK about the resins in the wood, but pine is a softwood, so it might not last as long as manzy or other hardwoods.
I got the gnarled, ancient pieces that are hard as rock.
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I would grab some and sink it in a 55 gallon drum for a few weeks just to see what happens. I think if its 10+ years old you should be ok.
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I would grab some and sink it in a 55 gallon drum for a few weeks just to see what happens. I think if its 10+ years old you should be ok.
I was planning on keeping it in a 5 gallon bucket. I was curious as to exactly what I check for? Just a ph change?
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I dont think it would do anything but slightly drop the PH. If your worried about it leaching some sort of sap put it in your 5 gallon bucket with hot water and see if the wood bleeds sap if it doesnt then I think your good to go. This is what I would do maybe someone else has experience with pine that can be more helpfull.
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I got the gnarled, ancient pieces that are hard as rock.
Uath, yep, these will work if they sink.
Soak good.

Chose only long dead, well weathered pieces, denser the better.

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I've used long dead cedar roots before because they have good color and look super gnarly!
I soaked it all and threw away pieces along the way if they got too soft. The densest and hardest pieces were left after about 2 months.
I discovered through experimentation that you can cut the soak time down to about 1/4 by adding lots of baking soda to the water throughout the process. It will react with the acids and foam and fizz.
The baking soda neutralizes some of the acids and allow more to be leached out in a shorter period of time.
Boiling works wonders if a piece is small enough. Fill a pot with water, throw in the wood and something to hold it down, boil for awhile, dump stained water, add more water, keep boiling. Repeat that for about 3 hours or until it won't leech much more color.

The resins and sap crystallizes when the wood dies so the boiling melts it and heats the air inside of the wood, forcing it out, and allowing water to penetrate the wood very quickly. I also store smaller specimen pieces of driftwood in large ziplock bags by boiling them and putting them in the bag and then pouring the boiling water into the bag. That way the wood and the water is sterile so no fungal or bacterial growth occurs and you can save the wood for use even a year later. Great for Moving!
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Thank you all! This was exactly what I wanted to hear! These pieces look so amazing and I am glad they will be safe in a tank.
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