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Safe Guard for hydra

Can someone please walk me through how to dose a planted breeding tank for hydra using Safe Guard?

I need to know how to dose, how often, is it just one time? and if I need to do WC afterwards and if so, when. Also, how long is the treatment likely to last, so to speak?

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[QUOTE=mordalphus;1108699]If you use the pills, crush them and put them in a pantyhose so they wont blow chunks everywhere, and put pantyhose in front of spraybar so it spreads the chemical around. Then after ~72 hours of treatment, remove pantyhose, do a large water change, then hook up a canister filter with activated charcoal to remove the rest of the medicine (and stir up top layer of substrate to loosen particles of medicine). Then after 48 hours of charcoal, change charcoal in filter, do a large water change, and re-introduce your snails. After a few days, you can remove charcoal from canister filter completely.
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here is a good article
http://www.planetinverts.com/killing...and_hydra.html
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But does anyone know what the dose is? Surely there is a dose that would be lethal to fry? How many pills or mg should be used per gallon?

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.1g - .2g per 10 gallons
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Thanks!

Do you know where this dose comes from? Did someone do testing to determine safety on this dose?

Have people used this dose safely in other words, or is a bit experimental?

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that is what i dosed. i got it from the article that i linked for you up above.
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OK, for some reason I thought I read that article twice and didn't see a dose. Sorry about that, not typical of me.

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Now I see that 1 gram is 1/5 of a teaspoon. How should I measure out .1 gram with accuracy?

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Can you dissolve it in water and then measure what you need?


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I like that idea, but not sure it dissolves very well in water from what I hear. I will have to experiment. Maybe I have a seachem test kit scoop that is some percentage of a gram, I will have to call them to check.

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do you have a syringe? you could mix it with hot water, lets say 10 ml of water, and then measure it with your syringe. it might not dissolve all of the way in 10 ml so you could try 50ml and then dose 5ml.

if you cant figure it out i could premeasure some for you (i have a scale) and mail it to you for the cost of the dewormer and a stamp. or you could mail me your unopened package and i'll mail you some already measured out.
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I have a syringe so I'll try dissolving it and see if that works.

Thanks a lot!

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I guess I still need help about something:

I have a five g breeder tank set up with one pair of licorice gouramis. It has hydra. As soon as they start going in their caves I am planning to use the Safe Guard to kill the hydra. I will use .05g for the five g tank. I will dilute it and then just put the diluted solution in the tank, right?

Then I'm not sure if I need to do a WC at 72 hours? Or should I do one as soon as the hydra seem dead? Do I then also need to run carbon since I have no inverts?

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thats how i would do it

doing the water change and the carbon have nothing to do with the fact that there is inverts in there, it has to do with removing the meds from the water. so yeah i would still do both.

why are you concerned with hydra if you dont have shrimp? wont the gouramis eat them?
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Licorice gouramis are only one inch and very fussy eaters and no, they won't touch hydra. But apparently the hydra will kill something like most of all of the LG fry if/when they hatch. Since it took me six months to even find these fish, I'm not taking any chances.

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