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my tank which has leftover coral chips under the substrate has a PH of 7.5....and no matter what i do i cant get the PH to lower down.....can i use alot of peat to overcome the buffering of the coral chips and make my water PH lower? as i cant take out the coral chips anymore due to having soil on top...

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Do you have a good reason for needing the pH to be lower?

Unless you're trying to breed some blackwater fish I'd probably just leave it be.

If you ARE trying to breed some blackwater fish then personally I'd either set up a different tank for them or go ahead and break this one down- because otherwise you're just going to end up with a yo-yo with your water parameters, and that isn't good for fish. Stability is usually much, much more important than any "ideal."





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I agree 100% with Luara, either get a new tank or don't mess with it. Fish and shrimp can survive a host of water parameters, what kills them is the flucuations.
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Set up a new tank with ADA AS or some of the specialty shrimp substrate developed and commonly sold in Asia.
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if you have crushed coral in your tank, make sure you arent running co2 on a ph controller. thats a very bad thing to do
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Agreed with the above....If you try the peat thing, you're just adding white paint to black trying to make it white...
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I'd redo the tank.





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I agree with Laura.. redo using the correct substrate.
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but coral chips suppose to buffer the PH to more alkali right? but then if i add more peat that also buffers the PH lower...doesnt it make it neutral?

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but coral chips suppose to buffer the PH to more alkali right? but then if i add more peat that also buffers the PH lower...doesnt it make it neutral?
Trust us, ditch the coral chips.......
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+1 ^^^^

It would be an endless battle... why bother?
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I tought that CC raises PH/GH?
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yes. ph, gh and kh
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By adding peat to neutralize the alkaline water, you are creating dynamics in your water that can get out of hand fast. Your pH may swing wildly between acidic and alkaline and will make an unfavorable condition, at best, for your shrimp. For example, take any acid and add it to water and check the pH.. come back an hour later and check it again and there's a good chance it'll be different.

The only thing you 'might' be able to do is to add RO water with a low GH, KH and see where you end up. With regular water changes, it 'might' work.. but you may be putting a lot of stress on those shrimp unless the change is slow.

A much better idea as has been pointed out is to remove the chips. It may be a lot of work initially, but it'll save you a lot of headaches in the end.


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