Might would adopt full estimative index with CO2 injection on timer to come on one hour before light's come on.
Would want drop checker to be green/yellow within first hour , rather than middle or end of lighting period.
1/3 Estimative index is normally suggested for NON CO2 enhanced tanks with lower lighting.
Might would cease with bubble wand or air stone lest they drive off the CO2 you are trying to keep in the tank.
The gas want's to rise up and out nearly as fast as it is being injected,(as gasses will do) and bubble wand or airstone will speed this up = bad.
Keep whatever method you are using to diffuse the gas clean (diffuser/inline through canister,etc)
Don't give up.
Thank you for your suggestions. Let me tell you what I have been doing for the past several weeks. Beginning with EI. I had used PPS-Pro for about 5 months but noticed that my Nitrates and Phosphates were both reading zero so it was clear that I wasn't putting enough in the tank. That is when I switched to EI but in the instructions for EI, it mentions that a full dose is based on a heavily planted tank and as you can see from the photos, this is far from a heavily planted tank. Now, I had considered that there was this huge growth spurt for the first few weeks after planting this latest round and then everything started dying off. I thought perhaps the plants used up every bit of nutrient it could find and once it ran out it died back. The only problem there is once I switched to EI, I began testing Nitrates and Phosphates and was getting readings of 20 and .50 respectively.
As for Co2, while I haven't measured with any type of test kit, I begin running Co2 and at approx 8 am at 2-3 bps. It is down to 6.1 from 7.2 within about 1 1/2hrs. Remember, right now I am only using the Finnex 24/7 so there is always some light in the tank. The reason I run an airstone overnight is to keep the water as oxygenated as possible and to drive my ph back up. It is back up to 7.2 fairly quickly but I don't figure it hurts to run it overnight anyway. I turn off Co2 at 5:30PM. Why 5:30, I don't really know. Arbitrary really, since I don't clearly understand this Finnex 24/7 and how many hours it actually produces enough light to use Co2 effectively with. In any case, I figured 9 1/2 hours of Co2 is probably sufficient and with the aid of a controller, my ph drops over a full point each day to approx 6.1. The Co2 goes off at 5:30pm and the bubble stone comes on around 7pm and runs till about 5am.
As for the diffuser, I am currently running an Atomic but have also made a new one as mentioned here. I have not began using it since it will require a re-plumb and I may just as well wait till I make a new stand and transfer everything to the 40b. The Atomic that I am using now is extremely effective at making micro bubbles. The only problem is that I cannot stand how it looks with a constant cloud entering the tank.
Feel free to comment on any of the above. I realize air stones are controversial but it's a bit personal as I want to give my fish the best chance at a healthy life. I personally don't agree with cranking up the Co2 till your fish are gasping and then turning it down a hair. I know that I would not want to live on the edge of suffocation. This is just a personal view and since I remember many commenting that a 1.0 point drop in ph is sufficient, I figure I'm giving the plants what they want as well. My drop checker typically ranges from yellow green to mostly yellow with a hint of green. I have also been changing that solution every 3 months to make sure it stays effective.
Originally Posted by Redneck tenner
This is a well written post. I remember your tank. I looked at the pictures and went back through your journal. Ill just say at post 45 you seemed to have gotten some things figured out. I think you realize now there several things you would have done differently.
I do think there some challenges with the depth. I think some of those stems in the photos may have been saveable. Eco is not magical just a high cec. It can also be a pain to plant in as you may agree.
I never seen where you posted anything on your photo period times maybe I missed it? No doubt you did your homework and heart was there. No need give up.
You experienced algae about a month in it seems. Consider that. Did tabs ever go in ?
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Thank you for the kind words. You are absolutely right about feeling like I finally had things dialed in. The plants were doing well but for some reason, I feel like I needed to help them along with more light. That was just so dumb. I thought by adding back the layer of window screen under the Ray2, that it would filter out enough light so as to not compromise the light levels to much. I was clearly wrong. I maybe should have experimented with just trying just 1 hour first and bumped it up over time. Now I didn't ever add in the root tabs. In fact they are sitting here on my desk. I've been so frustrated lately, that I haven't wanted to do anything different. I just wanted to see if maybe the plants would begin to recover on their own. That has not been the case so far. I guess it wouldn't hurt to add root tabs. I don't even know how to use them yet. They are the API brand. I'm guessing they are added based on gallons. Maybe I will try it. For some reason, I just have this nagging feeling that this massive die off has something to do with nutrient depletion as well. Honestly though, it's just a crap shoot at this point. .