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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2016, 02:33 AM Thread Starter
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Planted Tank is in trouble

So i started my 29 gallon tank with Eco complete and Pressurized Co2, PPS Pro. I am getting some weird kind of algae. Could you guys take a look at the pictures and tell me whats that is and to get rid of it? I do have some Flourish root tabs inside the substrate.
Also My carpets plants are not growing at all..almost dead.
I have Micranthemum, Hydrocotyle tripiata & DHG

Nitrate 40PPM
PH is 7.5
KH 80 PPM
GH 180 PPM
Temp 80F/27C

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-26-2016, 02:41 AM
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First, I'd cut back on the amount of ferts due to the lack of plant mass. Second, get an old toothbrush or get some from the dollar store and use it to remove the brown hair algae. Swirl the brush around the algae and get as much as you can. Remove this daily, it's going to come back until the tank balances out.

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What light are you using?
What is your ph before co2 turns on and what is it before it turns off?

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Water change(s) to reduce nitrates and light reduction to kill algae.

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Is this a newer tank? It looks more like diatoms than brown hair algae which is common in a new set up. I have found that common pond snails and otocinclus catfish eat this up nicely but it will go away on its own once the tank get settled. A huge problem you have is plant mass. You need A LOT more plants in there. I have found DHG doesn't grow all that well for me in ecocomplete. The grain size is a little too big. If you want a carpet similar to that go with dwarf sag. Grows and spreads like a weed. Also your ph is 7.5 after co2? Unless you are starting with 8.5+ ph than you don't have enough co2 being dissolved into the water.

Problem
#1 not enough plant mass
#2 likely not enough co2
#3 likely too much light for plant mass

Solution
#1 go to the for sale section on here and order a good $30 or more worth of plants that are fast growers (dwarf sag, wisteria, bacopa, hornwart and many others)
#2 increase co2 to get at least a full 1.0 drop in ph from degassed water.
#3 raise lights a few inches to see if that slows the growth of the algae or diatoms
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I will measure the PH again today. I am using a current USA led plus pro and a finnex planted plus. It is a new tank.
I will try to get more plants.
I see a lot of bubbles everywhere when my co2 is on does it mean its not dissolving properly? Any suggestion there? I am using a gla in tank diffuser. @Willcooper @AbbeysDad @Nlewis

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+1 to @Willcooper also you might want to read this

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/26...er-works~.html

Not expensive but an excellent tool to keep your CO2 at correct level. I don't see any fish in there but keep an eye on them when you play around with CO2 levels.
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@K1963158, I don't have any fish in there yet. I wanted to grow the carpet first before putting any fish in there. Thanks for the suggestion on that drop checker.
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What are you dosing besides the root tabs?
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+1 to @Willcooper also you might want to read this

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/26...er-works~.html

Not expensive but an excellent tool to keep your CO2 at correct level. I don't see any fish in there but keep an eye on them when you play around with CO2 levels.
can you recommend a good Drop Checker ?


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can you recommend a good Drop Checker ? Thank you.
A drop checker is a pretty generic item in terms of what it does. Some look a little prettier than others. Just pick up one on Amazon or bay In fact I would get two since they can break (glass). Most are between $5-$20, but can go up to $100 for a fancy brand one. Some come with the KH solution so I would get one that does
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I would use only one of those LED lights. Two is really way too much unless you are a very experienced planted tank hobbyist.
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can you recommend a good Drop Checker ?


Thank you.
I bought mine years ago from a local guy who sells plants from his basement. He stocks lots of "plant" friendly items. Not a complicated thing so no need to spend lots of money on it.

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You actually don't need a drop checker. All I did when starting out was to measure how much lower my PH got from my regular tank water and used a table that compares PH to water hardness. Gives you a more or less estimate that often is good enough. Just google how to calculate CO2 in your water and you'll get the table and instruction on how to do it.

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So I measured my PH 2 hours after starting the Co2 & lights and at 2 hrs after turning off the CO2 & lights. I don't any see any PH drop. its around 7.5 all the time. I am using an year old API PH liquid test kit. Though I do see a ton of bubbles coming from my diffuser.

If i have high KH and GH would my PH still drop with CO2?



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PH will drop regardless

What is above the diffuser? Ideally it should be under a filter output or some other form of current so the undissolved bubbles get blown around and stay in the tank longer.

If the bubbles are going straight to the surface and popping you are losing a lot of co2.


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@burr740 filter output is on the other side, But it looks like i am still getting very good movement with my fluval 306.I mean see those tiny bubbles like all over.
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