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Help with planted tanks?

I'm having a lot of trouble finding a happy medium for my new tank. I just redid it, and the first 2 days went really well, plants were pearling, growth was apparent. But now, some of the blyxa japonica plants have clear colored leaves along with the cambmba.

Any tips for the first month or so when starting a new tank to get it going better? I really hate not being succesful at this.

Either algae becomes a major problem, or the plants just aren't growing.
HELP PLEASE, this is getting very frustrating.
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Some specs would be help. Light? Dosing? Substrate?....?

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lighting is a 48W t5ho light is on for 7 hours.
substrate is flourite
dosing ( where i think most of my problem is at) flourish; would like to switch to dry ferts.
co2, DIY... switching to pressurized soon. just not getting consistent results.
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Yeah, you have it nailed. With that amount of light you will need to go pressurized and start dosing more ferts. What size is the tank?

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Oh, sorry it's a 20G high.
i figured i was going to have to upgrade to pressurized, it's just so darn expensive. being 17... money isn't exactly easy to get.

Meant to ask, do you dose the EI method? A friend of mine does it to great results. His 75G is beautiful!!
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EI is the standard. I will be dosing EI when I get my tanks up and running this summer, they are kind in limbo while I gather the parts. I bought enough dry ferts to last me a 1-1.5 years for like $30 from GLA a month ago, but I will be dosing a 120 and a 29.

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Okay, sounds good. I think i'm getting my pressurized system soon, but not sure completely. I've calculated the costs to be around 180-190 for my full setup.
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you could do excel for now till you get your co2 up n running.
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another question pertaining co2, any suggestions where i can get a regulator for lower price? 70-80$

EDIT: was looking at a milwaukee ma957 on ebay for 90$ shipped, is that a good regulator better then the azoo? the azoo is 80 on foster and smith
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another question pertaining co2, any suggestions where i can get a regulator for lower price? 70-80$

EDIT: was looking at a milwaukee ma957 on ebay for 90$ shipped, is that a good regulator better then the azoo? the azoo is 80 on foster and smith
Are you asking for a complete CO2 system (i.e regulator, needle valve, solenoid, bubble counter, essentially, everything minus the tank), or just a regulator (there is a difference).

I would say that the Milwaukee and Azoo both are decent regulators, but suffer from similar problems (in that the stock needle valve that comes with both are not the best).

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yes to the complete regulator assembly. I plan on switching the needle valve anyways, i would like be on the safe side and stay low on the bps until i get comfortable with it.
I can get a brand new 5lb aluminum tank from a local brewery supply for 50$. there's a local fire extinguisher place that fills the 5lb tanks for ~15$ is that reasonable?
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there are alot of plants that are easy care also that will grow good under your light with just plain old fish poop too. If you click on my avatar the tank that comes up ran for years without ferts or co2. you are limited somewhat on selection but you can still create a masterpiece w/o co2 or ferts.

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wow that's really cool I would really like to have fast growing plants and not only that but healthy plants. Hopefully when this happens i can start selling them or trading them for other plants. I really would like to have my own shop once i get more experience, so wish me luck :P
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well, as i've been going through what i did on the other tank, i think i've finally realized what i was doing wrong.
1. too much trace nutrients ( where the major algae problem came in.
2. major fluctuating conditions. (co2 levels)
3. my enexperience with what causes what in a planted tank.

and on the good note, here's how it's going now that i rescaped.

1. in the past week the rescaped tank has grown considerably. all plants are taking off quite well.
2. the ludwigia repens is putting large roots off the mid and upper section. leaves are bright bright red, almost pink on top.(new leaves have an amazing pink-peach color, quite nice against the wildcaught bright green repens) it's even branching off the main stems (FINALLY)
3. have my co2 cylinder and now i'm waiting on my regulator (YES AGAIN)
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