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sudden fish death?

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I have a 75 gallon planted tank no co2. Up in running for about 6 months now. I do weekly water changes of 25 gallons with aged water. I feed freeze dried shrimp blood worms flake and sinking pellets. I had 5 angel 6 rainbow 5 Cory 2hole. I have 2 canister filters and one hob filter. I haven't added any new fish in over 4 monthof a sudden one of my angel goes mia. She seemed fine 2 days ago. All the other fish are fine no fighting eating and acting happy as can be. Have any of you had this happen? Should i replace the angle? If i do replace it i would wait several weeks. This one scratching my head.
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Nothing that blocks view? Maybe it's hiding well, since 75g is quite big.


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She was a hog I couldn't walk by without her coming over. I looked all day yesterday and today.
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She was a hog I couldn't walk by without her coming over. I looked all day yesterday and today.
Any cotton like growth in tank? Usually when they decay on substrate there's a fungus like think on gravel, or some parts/bones flying about when you shift substrate a bit.


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I haven't seen any but if she died amongst the plants or wood I might not see her
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Look around your tank. Even the back. Check if she jumped. I had an angel jump out of the the tank and 2 feet under the sofa.


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Hey stealthypotatoes
I have a little poodle and I'm afraid if the angel jumped she won't have become a snack for Fifi.
should I replace it with another angel? From what I hear angel like to be in odd numbers
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Angels are notorious for developing internal parasite issues. What you thought was a nice fat fish may very well have been a bloated ball of internal parasites. I wouldn't replace it, but you should try and find the carcass.
There's no odd-numbering rule of thumb. You just need to keep an eye on how they interact as they grow. Four adult angels in a 75, depending on what combination of M/F they end up being may force you to move one or even two. Bottom line: they are cichlids. Once they pair, it can get a little intense between them and the rest of the fish in the tank. And then some pairs can actually do very well in a community setting. No rule covers all the possibilities but you need to be ready for the worst case.

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Thanks Angelo
I found what I'm sure is the remainder of her body :-(
thanks for the advice on the angels. Knock on wood 2 are size the of the palm of my hand not inclufing fins. So far they are really easy going. Not even one fight. I do realize tho this may change
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Thanks Angelo
I found what I'm sure is the remainder of her body :-(
thanks for the advice on the angels. Knock on wood 2 are size the of the palm of my hand not inclufing fins. So far they are really easy going. Not even one fight. I do realize tho this may change
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Yes it was in the tank behind some plants
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Thanks Angelo
I found what I'm sure is the remainder of her body :-(
thanks for the advice on the angels. Knock on wood 2 are size the of the palm of my hand not inclufing fins. So far they are really easy going. Not even one fight. I do realize tho this may change
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I should've added that the best scenario is a sorority........all females. To be sure, there are exceptions there too but it has the best chances for a long and lasting peace. You may very well have females at this point.

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Hey Bushkill
I'm by far no expert but from what I can tell they are all female. I do have a smaller one that could be a male but if I had to say I'd say it's a female as well. I'd love to replace the one I lost even if it's with a different type of fish. I'll go the tank a few weeks to make sure not is brewing first.
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