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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 05-15-2010, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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collecting native plants in NYC

I recently got the notion of going to some fresh water lakes, ponds and streams close to NYC to see if I can collect samples of native aquatic plants. Have anyone done this? And would any one like to do this at some point in August? If people are interested perhaps we can go to our closest body of water and collect samples and then meet up to exchange plants and information. I have gone to parts of the pond in Prospect Parks and saw various mosses and ludwigia sp. Currently I am looking for Myriophyllum tenellum.
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Got to be some interesting stuff in Jamaica Bay, although it is mostly brackish
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At one point I thought about starting a marine planted tanks and keep the plants that wash up on the beaches, but I don't have the room or time for that these days.
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i'm totally down to do this, i'll keep my eyes peeled. a few friends of mine are always at the delaware water gap hiking. anything i need to know before randomly grabbing plants out of streams? should i bring a water test kit?
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No need to bring a test kit. But you may want to take note where you collected the plants in case there is a desire to return to that spot. Plastics zip lock bags and paper towels to wrap the plants in all that is really needed.
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All I've seen in NY is egeria densa, some willow moss, and duckweed (specifically LI). My friend upstate has found some hornwort, vals, ludwigia and some myrio. I wouldn't expect too much diversity.
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I don't think I've ever heard of anyone collecting within NYC. I've always thought starting a NYC biotope (haha!) would be interesting, but seemingly every spot here has some law that prevents you from taking something from the wild.

I do hear about people out in Long Island collecting mosses though, and some collecting trips upstate.
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I cant wait to see pics

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No need to bring a test kit. But you may want to take note where you collected the plants in case there is a desire to return to that spot. Plastics zip lock bags and paper towels to wrap the plants in all that is really needed.

how about as far as grabbing any green thing under water and plunking it in our tanks, how bad can that go?
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how about as far as grabbing any green thing under water and plunking it in our tanks, how bad can that go?
Well, I suppose the worst could be fines and jail time.

Check with your county extension office to see if there are specific regulations about collecting native plant materials. In most states there are at least some species that it is illegal to collect, though not all are aquatic. In NY for example, the pitcher plant (Lady's Slipper) is protected.

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Well, I suppose the worst could be fines and jail time.

Check with your county extension office to see if there are specific regulations about collecting native plant materials. In most states there are at least some species that it is illegal to collect, though not all are aquatic. In NY for example, the pitcher plant (Lady's Slipper) is protected.

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i meant possibly destroying my aquarium, not the environment
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Grab and bag, fish are in streams, mountain minnows upstate. Gotta keep a cool tank though. I got some mosses from a waterfall, still alive, likes water that flows though.
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Any native species of fish or plants are going to need cooler waters in order to survive so I wouldnt mix them with anything that needs tropical conditions.

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I think some native plants will adapted to tropical temperature just fine. The ludwigia that I found last year is doing quite well in my tropical tank, but I am not sure if it is a native.
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I don't think I've ever heard of anyone collecting within NYC. I've always thought starting a NYC biotope (haha!) would be interesting, but seemingly every spot here has some law that prevents you from taking something from the wild.

I do hear about people out in Long Island collecting mosses though, and some collecting trips upstate.
What would be a NYC biotope?? Mice and Roaches??
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