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Looking for someone familiar with overflow/sump systems

Hey all,

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around overflows/sumps and hoping someone fairly local is familiar or has one set up that I could talk to and/or see their setup.

I've been curious of this for a while and trying to decide if I want to make the jump and what it would take to accomplish.

Thanks in advance.
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I've used one on my 180g tank that isn't drilled so I had overflow box running down to my sump. There's a number of youtube videos and I'll be happy to answers questions but I recently stopped running mine. Replaced it with a FX6.


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I made one for the 180 reef tank I had.

A simple piece of black acrylic was used to create a triangular overflow chamber in a corner. Tank bottom was drilled in 3 places. One overflow return, one spray bar at back at floor, and one gentle jet from the chiller. Wet dry filter with sump.

The gas exchange was incredible so in a freshwater planted tank you are going to be running your CO2 at 3-4 bps just to keep up.

The plus of all your labor building this is that there are no exposed pipes anywhere. Heater is in the sump. Water surface is always clear. More tank for fish and plants.

For safety, get a low water cutoff switch for the external pumps so they don't run dry. External pumps do not transmit any heat to the water. Iwaki.

FX 5-6 biggy type canister filters are the alternative. They make retro fit overflows but, syphons have a way of either being too quick, too slow or quitting.

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I made a dual, one siphon and one overflow style pvc drain on my 65 that wasn't drilled. Silent and works well. The full siphon put a gate valve to control the flow so that just a tiny bit of water enters the overflow pipe, which keeps it silent.
It's really quite easy, and I will never go back to a canister or hob.
We go to the same lfs from a recent post about pets plus. Let me know if u wanna check mine out

If in doubt, add more plants!

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Thank you all for the responses. I really appreciate it and it's giving more more ideas for sure.

Jeepguy, where are you located? Pets Plus is like 20 minutes from me down route 1. I'm in Franklin Park. I'd definitely like to see it in action.

CO2 was a worry of mine, but I see Tom Barr running the overflow on his tanks w/CO2 and has no issues. I am trying to get all the equipment out of the tank for sure, that would be awesome.
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Degassing Co2 for me was an issue since my sump was hard to seal and still have it be easy to preform maintenance. Since it wasn't sealed it also would shorten the life of 20lb tank by about 6 months which wasn't a big deal when swapping tank was as easy as going up the road. These days it's a bit of trip and an inconvenience so I'm back to canisters in hopes to stretch the 20lb back closer to a year.


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Thank you all for the responses. I really appreciate it and it's giving more more ideas for sure.

Jeepguy, where are you located? Pets Plus is like 20 minutes from me down route 1. I'm in Franklin Park. I'd definitely like to see it in action.

CO2 was a worry of mine, but I see Tom Barr running the overflow on his tanks w/CO2 and has no issues. I am trying to get all the equipment out of the tank for sure, that would be awesome.
I'm in Hamilton just off 295, the route 33 west exit. sump design really dictates co2 off gassing as long as your sump drain outlets are under water.
You can pm me for an address if you want. Or I can send any pictures or even the design of drain system.

If in doubt, add more plants!

My not-enough-plants-but-not-enough-space-to-put-anymore-so-will-start-going-up-box-of-water.

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Awesome thanks! Yeah you're not far at all. I'll shout out to you when I know I'm definitely free so you can tell me if the time is good. We're a little over a month away from our first baby so things are getting hectic here!
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I have an overflow, unused, if you're in the market. Custom made ultra slim model by Lifereef, the best. Not opting to use overflow after all.
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