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I have been doing a ton of research and have read some dreaded posts about Anubias and Buce melting away from Anubias rot. I am planning on planting heavily from the start while my tank cycles.

Should I hold off on Anubias and Buce until after my tank cycles? I know most plants should have no issues with a tank cycling, but I am wondering if the instability of immature bacteria will just work against me.
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No one has advice on this?
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Not an expert, but i have planted both prior, during, and after cycling, never had a problem.
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I'll pitch in, but you almost certainly already know more about this than me.

Isn't plant rot usually related to the transition from growing emersed to submersed? In that case, keeping the plants out of the tank during the cycle wouldn't do anything.

Even if bacteria were the cause for the rot, I would think you would actually have a larger bacteria colony in the tank post-cycle than during it. What do you mean by 'immature bacteria'?

I went a read just a few posts about Anubias rot, and my impression is that the cause is either from the transition from growing emersed to submersed or has something to do with how the plant was raised, handled, and shipped by the supplier. In this case, it would make no difference if the tank was cycled or not.
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Thanks for both of your reply’s.
When you are just starting out you don’t have any mature bacteria in your tank. It takes a while for you to establish a stable system.
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I plant Anubias and Buce right away as with any plant. No issues thus far. I see no reason why spikes in NH4 would contribute to rot while the tank cycles. The only downside at all (and not sure it is one) is that growing plants will utilize the NH4 as well as the bacteria you are trying to feed. But I almost always see some NO2 and then NO3 over those weeks and can feel like the tank is safe for fauna when the first two values are 0 and nitrate is showing.

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I plant Anubias and Buce right away as with any plant. No issues thus far. I see no reason why spikes in NH4 would contribute to rot while the tank cycles. The only downside at all (and not sure it is one) is that growing plants will utilize the NH4 as well as the bacteria you are trying to feed. But I almost always see some NO2 and then NO3 over those weeks and can feel like the tank is safe for fauna when the first two values are 0 and nitrate is showing.
Thanks. Yes it will take a little bit for the ammonia to break down and turn into NO2 and then NO3
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