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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Plant ID: Foreground plant w/ runners

Hello, I want to make sure I have a complete list of plants in my 40g so that I can better care for the plants and help the system thrive. There is one plant we introduced that I am not familiar with. It was given to us in our shrimp tank, and has done quite well. It grows 1-2" tall and sends runners to create new leaves. The runners have typically grown in a straight line along the glass and they have fine brown roots.
Any ID or guidance that could help me find it would be great. The closest ID I could find by searching is Marsilea hirsuta. If that is correct, confirmation is appreciated. What throws me off is the clover vs. single leaf forms.


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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-16-2019, 06:05 PM
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Looks like "Micranthemum 'Monte Carlo"
Have a look at this
https://tropica.com/en/plants/plantd...-(025-TC)/4442
Also look for the app on play store Aqua Guide
Helps me a great deal.
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Looks like "Micranthemum 'Monte Carlo"
Have a look at this
https://tropica.com/en/plants/plantd...-(025-TC)/4442
Also look for the app on play store Aqua Guide
Helps me a great deal.
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I am fairly sure it is not monte carlo. I keep monte carlo (purchased as 1-2-Grow from Tropica, which you linked). Monte carlo leaves are maybe 1/8 the size, and grows in a more dense viny tangle.

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Marsilea hirsuta is correct.
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Marsilea hirsuta is correct.
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It's impossible to know the species for sure without sexual characters (sporocarps in this case) or at least a strong chain of custody from a reliably identified source. You just don't know otherwise.
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It looks like the Marsilea hirsuta I used to have. mine had pretty clover-shaped leaves and then they all converted to single-lobed leaves. It's probably in transition.


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It's impossible to know the species for sure without sexual characters (sporocarps in this case) or at least a strong chain of custody from a reliably identified source. You just don't know otherwise.

Thank you, I understand nothing can be certain. Even fish and plant species that have been carefully studied are later found to have been misclassified. LFS regularly mis-labels fish and plants as well. I am just shooting for 90% certainty so that I can keep a good eye on things.

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It looks like the Marsilea hirsuta I used to have. mine had pretty clover-shaped leaves and then they all converted to single-lobed leaves. It's probably in transition.

Thanks, that's what this sounds like. Some are still clover-shaped, but most of them are single leaf at this point.

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I think @Tinanti means it's Marsilea but the epithet requires more work to determine. Minuta, hirsuta, crenata, etc. all look too similar under water, especially with variances due to nutrients.

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Hijacking this thread for another plant ID request. It was given to me as Staurogyne sp. Kerala but it doesn't look like any of the pictures I've seen. It's the green plant with round leaves in these photos

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