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Mixed topsoil and sand?

Is there any reason I shouldn't mix an inch or so of clayish topsoil with about that much sand and then cap it with about half an inch of sand? Seems like it would result in a fairly natural-looking substrate that plants would probably like more than just straight sand.


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No reason I can think of, over time the cap and dirt mix anyways as you rescape and the like


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Can't imagine why it would not be ok, probably a nice mix for the finer roots too.

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Commercial pond soil is a mix of topsoil, clay and sand. And as said on a previsous post, over time they mix.

Pond soil is one of the component I used to setup my 20 gal Alternative Aquarium.

I can imagine there might be an optimum ratio...


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Gave it a try. Got a decent bit of clayish topsoil, stuck it in a bucket with a hose, rinsed it out a bunch to remove fine particles and dirt, and mixed it into the first bit of sand. Ended up with just a few big handfuls, the small particles all rinsed out. Tank was somewhat cloudy on first filling, but a piece of felt in the filter and a 60% water change fixed that just fine. There was no bad smell or any signs of any other issues, so after adding some sticks and filter media from a fully cycled tank, I added a tiny baby bushfish. He's an anabatoid, so he's safe in lower-oxygen environments.
There was a very mild sulphur smell in the filter area about 5 days after setup. I did a big water change and waited a few days, and it's pretty much gone. The bushfish has shown absolutely no signs of distress, and he's not air-gulping any more than is normal. I don't think there's anything more in there than you find in the average muddy/leafy pond. The scent could potentially be from all the leaves I dumped in, but I'm reasonably certain that it was the clay.
Clay is mostly along the corners and sides, where I intend to plant things. A couple of val sprouts that I planted are already showing growth, so I'd say plants like the stuff. Using a whole bunch of clay soil probably wouldn't be immediately safe for fish, but a couple of handfuls is evidently just fine, at least for a fish who usually lives in ponds anyway.
Baby bush seems to be enjoying himself. He has lots of places to hide and nobody bothering him. Also, there are multiple species of tiny decomposers (itty-bitty worms, copepods, limpets, etc) all over the glass.


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I find nature will take care of a lot of our worries if we just go with moderation. A small change and they can go with it. I now use quite a lot of things I would have considered deadly when starting. Looking at the creek, the bottom is rarely one solid type for very far.
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New update: No issues to report, aside from a note that cories stir up a bit of a cloud when they hit a pocket of dirt. It settles back down pretty quickly, though, and the cories seem to love it. As long as you don't need crystal-clear water, it's not a problem, and a reasonably thick sand cap would fix that issue. Albino cory just found an area with approximately no sand.
On another note, cories very much love clay, sand, and leaf litter.


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What is the point in using top soil and/or clay when you wash it before using it?

If you have a choice, you have a problem, till you elect your choice. No choice, no problem, only consequences, learn to live with them.
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