Zeosand vs. Pool filter sand? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-05-2009, 03:38 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 437
Zeosand vs. Pool filter sand?

Hey all,

This is a follow up thread to my earlier thread on the best sand for plant growth...

After learning about CEC, I am wondering if anyone has compared PFS to Zeosand, which supposedly has a higher CFC????

Also: Does zeosand have any negative effects on the fish (I have discus).

Thanks,

Yasmin
Yassmeena is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-05-2009, 08:09 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (84/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 21,015
I tried zeosand, a pool filter sand variety of zeolite, in a 10 gallon tank. I didn't see either an advantage to it or a disadvantage. What I did see was a very unattractive color, a dull greenish color. As far as I could find out with a google search, there are only 3 or maybe 4 different zeolite pool filter sands available, and only one is a tan or beige color that could look good in an aquarium. The others are ugly, in my opinion.

High CEC is theoretically a big advantage for growing plants. But, I have yet to see any data that puts a percentage on how much better it is than low CEC. I think if you have a choice between high and low CEC, and you don't otherwise prefer one over the other, the high CEC sand is the way to go.

Hoppy
Hoppy is offline  
post #3 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-05-2009, 10:50 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
Raul-7's Avatar
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Lomita, CA
Posts: 1,818
Honestly, don't get worked up about which is a better substrate. Plenty of people (including me) use regular inert sand in their aquariums and the plants are growing just fine. Choose what looks better in your case and then focus on dosing through the water column.
Raul-7 is offline  
 
post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-06-2009, 02:04 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 437
Thanks guys.

Yasmin
Yassmeena is offline  
post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
boltp777's Avatar
 
PTrader: (21/96%)
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Glenolden Pa
Posts: 398
Send a message via AIM to boltp777
yeah i have zeosand i like it and all. just have to be careful cuz gases build up in pool filter sand. so you have to stir ir around a bit but im not sure if you have to disturb the zeosand i never did what i had it.

42 gallon hex journal coming soon
boltp777 is offline  
post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 03:36 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (84/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 21,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by boltp777 View Post
yeah i have zeosand i like it and all. just have to be careful cuz gases build up in pool filter sand. so you have to stir ir around a bit but im not sure if you have to disturb the zeosand i never did what i had it.
I have pool filter sand in a 45 gallon tank, with a reverse flow undergravel filter, and CO2 enriched water from a DIY reactor flowing up through the sand. I haven't seen any problems with gases building up, and lots of CO2 gas has gone through there. I think the gas buildup occurs mostly with finer particle sands, like play sand, which tend to pack down.

Hoppy
Hoppy is offline  
post #7 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 04:25 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 437
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoppy View Post
I have pool filter sand in a 45 gallon tank, with a reverse flow undergravel filter, and CO2 enriched water from a DIY reactor flowing up through the sand. I haven't seen any problems with gases building up, and lots of CO2 gas has gone through there. I think the gas buildup occurs mostly with finer particle sands, like play sand, which tend to pack down.
I see... I don't have an undergravel filter. Have you tried the PFS without it with the same lack of gas build up?

Thanks Hoppy,
Yasmin
Yassmeena is offline  
post #8 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 02:32 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
bradac56's Avatar
 
PTrader: (9/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Blue Springs, MO
Posts: 1,157
Send a message via AIM to bradac56 Send a message via MSN to bradac56 Send a message via Yahoo to bradac56 Send a message via Skype™ to bradac56
Yes I've used PFS without any undergravel filtration (hobs and canisters) without any buildup.

- Brad

Proud member of the
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
and the
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


VICTOR PIMP #58 -
VTS-253A-320 x2, VTS-253D-320, VTS-253A-1993-320.
bradac56 is offline  
post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 437
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradac56 View Post
Yes I've used PFS without any undergravel filtration (hobs and canisters) without any buildup.

- Brad
Thanks Brad.

Yasmin
Yassmeena is offline  
post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 06:07 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
hbosman's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Leesburg Virginia
Posts: 1,728
I've never actually seen pool filter sand. What color is it? Is it as white as play sand?
hbosman is offline  
post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-07-2009, 10:48 PM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI
Posts: 437
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbosman View Post
I've never actually seen pool filter sand. What color is it? Is it as white as play sand?
Well... I've never seen white play sand....

It's pretty white though. I'll post a pic when I set up my tank!

Yasmin
Yassmeena is offline  
post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-09-2009, 04:51 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
hbosman's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Leesburg Virginia
Posts: 1,728
Thanks
hbosman is offline  
post #13 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-09-2009, 04:38 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (84/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 21,015
Any cheap sand will have to be manufactured locally, or the shipping costs would keep it from being cheap. So, I doubt that my pool filter sand looks like that from Texas or Montana or New Jersey. (Not that I would expect there to be a big market for swimming pool stuff in Montana.) Mine is a light beige color with darker specks mixed in. But, one member here reported that they found some black granite pool filter sand, in Canada, as I recall.

Hoppy
Hoppy is offline  
post #14 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Wannabe Guru
 
hbosman's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Leesburg Virginia
Posts: 1,728
Black Granite Sand, hmmm. Loudoun County Virginia is nothing but Granite. I have check if there is any local source for that.

Thanks for the idea Hoppy.
hbosman is offline  
post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-12-2009, 09:19 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Hilde's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mableton, GA
Posts: 6,247
If you are looking for cheap sand go to a landscaper and get river sand.
Hilde is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome