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Question Used Eco-Complete: Good or Bad Idea for an Aquarist on a Budget?

Hi,

I am a student aquarist running 3 lower tech tanks: 5.5g, 10g and 20g. All are the standard rectangle-shape. Here are some collective specs:

-Gravel substrate
-Dosing Flourish Comprehensive
-Low Light
-No Co2 now, but I see some DIY in my future.

A classified on BCaquaria.com is advertising used eco-complete. Here is the ad...

(From http://bcaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24828)

4 bags of BLACK eco complete for $50 firm

3 bags used for a little over one year, one bag used about half yr
in very good condition, dosed regularly so the substrate hasnt been broken down bad

Worth it, or no? I am on a tight student budget and will be moving around alot in the next 4 years, so I don't mind if it will only last for a few more years.


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brand new it would cost about $80, so it is an ok deal. Not worth it though, I doubt it will help much. Fertilizer root tabs would be more beneficial.
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Seems a bit expensive for used substrate. It is also about twice what you would need for each of your tanks. I would take a pass.

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ooooh-kay- Good to know! Maybe I will throw some potting-soil under my gravel in the future, or scrape together some funds for better substrate. Thanks!

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I used dirt for this one and cost effective.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lo...-soil-sub.html


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The only reason I would consider used substrate would be if it came from an established (cycled) tank and it was still wet.

If you're considering it only because it's Eco-Complete, you should probably bite the bullet and pay more for new stuff.

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I used dirt for this one and cost effective.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lo...-soil-sub.html

Hmmm... I was thinking about using soil, since I already have the existing cycled gravel with which to cap it, but I'm not sure how fail-safe it is for noobs such as my self:

-How hard is is to vacuum the gravel without sucking the soil up with it?

-I am still pulling up lots of plants for rearranging and clipping: will this pull the soil up as well?

Any advice? I would love to try it if it isn't as difficult as it seems!

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I see no reason to avoid used Eco Complete, Flourite, SMS, etc. But, that price should be about half that, in my opinion, since it is used. And, for the type of tank you have, using fertilizer tabs, as FSM said would be much more effective. Eco Complete isn't a nutrient loaded substrate even when new.

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Used Eco-complete will work fine to answer your question. I would probably give a good rinsing before using it. As far as Eco breaking down. It would take many years in my estimation.
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Hmmm... I was thinking about using soil, since I already have the existing cycled gravel with which to cap it, but I'm not sure how fail-safe it is for noobs such as my self:

-How hard is is to vacuum the gravel without sucking the soil up with it?

-I am still pulling up lots of plants for rearranging and clipping: will this pull the soil up as well?

Any advice? I would love to try it if it isn't as difficult as it seems!
Would anyone who has knowledge on this please provide some insight? I was thinking of the same thing. I have access to plenty of soil, but am hessitant to spend more money on Eco-Complete.
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I have used flourite, eco and now aquasoil and eco was the one I have been the least impressed with. Out of the three, it was the least easy to get stems planted, it has broken down quite a bit in the 3 years I've had it and like everyone else has mentioned, I've needed to use a lot of root tabs over the years. By comparison, my flourite has had very little breakdown in the last 3 years and I purchased it used.


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