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Aquarium Gravel

Hi there. I was wondering if anyone would recommend any small gravel that can grow carpeting plants. I used to have Estes' Bits o Walnut which was really fine gravel ~.2cm and could grow carpeting plants but since it was discontinued, I can't seem to find anything similar to it. I would prefer gravel rather than sand or dirt. Thanks for your help.
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Flourite works well for me... Others use AquaSoil.


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Anything in 10 pound bags? I'm doing a nano 5.5 gallon tank.
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I've heard good things about Baylee's Better Bottom (BBB)

Here is a link to a 4lb auction of it on Aquabid.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...ons&1244647179
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Check with a local pool/spa dealer for pool filter sand it comes in a few different colors/sizes (stay in the 1mm to 3mm range) and usually runs about $10 to $12 for 50lbs.
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Wow the BBB looks nice. The 50 lbs of sand would unfortunately fill my entire tank up many times over lol. I'll try the sand next when I get a larger tank.
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Wow the BBB looks nice.
From what I hear the seller is super nice, I'm sure you can shoot him an email to ask any questions about it.
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BBB comes in two sizes now, a small gravel, maybe 2 - 3 mm and a really nice *sand* which is more like teeny tiny gravel. I use both. The grading is excellent, even particle size so minimal settling. Rinsing required is minimal. One of the best values for a substrate you can't buy locally. Cory is a REALLY nice guy, very helpful.
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What does BBB consist of? Commercial substrate manufacturers tell you that.

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Even if they call it "crap" themselves, it looks like river gravel/sand to me?

Baylees is about as un-commercial as it gets, which isn't a bad thing at all, but perhaps don't expect a lab analysis or MSDS.

If you have clean rivers nearby you can probably take some strainers and get something like that yourself. Me, I prefer something made from baked clay, for better nutrient exchange capabilities.


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Even if they call it "crap" themselves, it looks like river gravel/sand to me?

Baylees is about as un-commercial as it gets, which isn't a bad thing at all, but perhaps don't expect a lab analysis or MSDS.

If you have clean rivers nearby you can probably take some strainers and get something like that yourself. Me, I prefer something made from baked clay, for better nutrient exchange capabilities.

That has to be one of the most horried websites I've seen in awhile (very early 90'ish) { http://www.bayleesfishees.com/hobby.htm } and there doesn't seem a way to order online. I'm a bit skeptical about the line "BBB will not alter your water" since we call that type 'inert' but now I have to know so I'll order a bag soon.

EDIT: And of course I spoke to soon, they do have an online store it's just not part of the main website and they have a picture of it for anyone that wants to take a look: { http://www.bayleesfishees.com/store/...&productId=230 } 25lbs is about $20 before shipping so I'll be ordering.

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BBB has Fluorite in it. Seems like the rest of the pieces are inert rocks chosen for color. It's heavy so plants don't keep popping up out of the substrate and the particle size is even so it doesn't compact. Having done the river gravel thing and spending time sifting out the too big and too small pieces to get a really consistent size... I'd just rather buy it with the fluorite already mixed in.

How slick a website may or not be really doesn't predict the quality of a product... Kensfish.com isn't exactly Drs. Foster and Smith, doesn't mean everything is junk. Cory/Baylees is a person, not a mega company, no fancy packaging, no fancy website, no high prices. If you need ADA printed on everything, maybe he is not the right choice.
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BBB has Fluorite in it. Seems like the rest of the pieces are inert rocks chosen for color. It's heavy so plants don't keep popping up out of the substrate and the particle size is even so it doesn't compact. Having done the river gravel thing and spending time sifting out the too big and too small pieces to get a really consistent size... I'd just rather buy it with the fluorite already mixed in.

How slick a website may or not be really doesn't predict the quality of a product... Kensfish.com isn't exactly Drs. Foster and Smith, doesn't mean everything is junk. Cory/Baylees is a person, not a mega company, no fancy packaging, no fancy website, no high prices. If you need ADA printed on everything, maybe he is not the right choice.
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As a Network Admin former web admin/designer I look at that sort of thing plus I know how inexpensive a good site is now a-days so all I was saying was there probably not 'computer' people so do not expect Amazon.com type quality from there site or probably there shipping (as in prompt shipment and tracking #'s).

I'm not positive if that last line was meant as a direct insult or not but I'll assume it's not since I've never bought any ADA products. I tend to go with Fluorite/Eco for smaller tanks and SMS/Turface for larger + PPS-Classic.

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As a Network Admin former web admin/designer I look at that sort of thing plus I know how inexpensive a good site is now a-days so all I was saying was there probably not 'computer' people so do not expect Amazon.com type quality from there site or probably there shipping (as in prompt shipment and tracking #'s).

I'm not positive if that last line was meant as a direct insult or not but I'll assume it's not since I've never bought any ADA products. I tend to go with Fluorite/Eco for smaller tanks and SMS/Turface for larger + PPS-Classic.

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Last line wasn't directed at you at all. It is the general, plural *you*. Some people want only fancy brand name stuff. BBB is probably not for them.

He ships USPS and uses Click N Ship. Most recently, I received an email when he shipped, tracking number not included. Which really doesn't matter since it's just Delivery Confirmation and the USPS tracking on Priority is next to useless. He's honest, if he says he shipped... he did. If it didn't arrive in a few days I would simply ask him for the number. And him being a real person, I would get a reply. On my last box I received it less than a week from when I paid for it, same as everything else I have bought from him. He's a good guy, helpful and eager to please. But no, not Amazon.com.
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Just curious, are Dwarf Sag's able to produce runners in normal pea sized petco gravel?
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