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moving my tank (thinking about substrate options)

I'll be moving my 75 gallon tank in about a week and a half. Currently, its a fairly low tech set up (1.44 WPG T5-HO) with a play sand substrate. 2 eheim 2217's for filtration.

I've gotten some decent plant growth, but have not seen the results i would like. I have not been able to grow certain plants (any red sword i've tried has really struggled, all my stem plants have grown leggy and i'm getting BBA) I am already planning on adding pressurized CO2 and possibly adding a little more light. However, with the move coming up, i figure it couldn't hurt to look at options for substrate.

I don't plan on tossing away the sand. My fish seem to enjoy it and i like the look of it. Is there anything i could put underneath the sand when i move that would help plant growth. I've read a little bit about laterite and flourite, but don't know too much about either. Is this something worth thinking about? I'd really like to try a layer of something on the bottom capper with my play sand.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


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You could put mineralized topsoil under the sand, and have a nutrient rich substrate as a result. It really depends on how much money you are willing to spend on substrate. But, the mineralized topsoil substitutes your work for giving money to a store.

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You could put mineralized topsoil under the sand, and have a nutrient rich substrate as a result. It really depends on how much money you are willing to spend on substrate. But, the mineralized topsoil substitutes your work for giving money to a store.
Honestly, i just bought a condo and will be pretty much emptying my checking account to make the down payment. So i don't really want to spend all that much on dirt. About how much would a layer of the top soil cost for a 75 gallon?

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bump for any ideas? Is something like Fourite an option?


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Mineralized topsoil can be totally free if you have some clay, potash and carbonates available. I just re-read your first post again. You don't have a "low tech" lighting system at all. Two T5HO, 54 watt bulbs, with the usual individual reflectors made of highly polished aluminum, give you very close to high light intensity. What you lack is CO2. Your BBA is the dead give-away on that. You can gain the most per dollar by buying a pressurized CO2 system for that tank, and getting some KNO3 and KH2PO4 for fertilizing. Then, virtually all plants will grow for you, even with the sand substrate.

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Mineralized topsoil can be totally free if you have some clay, potash and carbonates available. I just re-read your first post again. You don't have a "low tech" lighting system at all. Two T5HO, 54 watt bulbs, with the usual individual reflectors made of highly polished aluminum, give you very close to high light intensity. What you lack is CO2. Your BBA is the dead give-away on that. You can gain the most per dollar by buying a pressurized CO2 system for that tank, and getting some KNO3 and KH2PO4 for fertilizing. Then, virtually all plants will grow for you, even with the sand substrate.
thanks for the reply.

I have heard that my TH50 system would constitute high lighting, but that just does not appear to be the case. I have had trouble with any sort of red plant. They all either turn green or melt away to nothing (red ludiwiga and red swords) I have had grown some fairly nice Red lotus, but they dont have the same requirements as other red plants.

I do plan on adding Co2 after the move (gotta wait for my homebuyers credit to show up). I've been using flourish root tabs along with Flourish, Plant grow pro and floruish potasium (recently started using excel again as well to try and combat the BBA).

do you really think that just adding Co2 and getting a more sophisticaed dosing schedule will do the trick?


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do you really think that just adding Co2 and getting a more sophisticaed dosing schedule will do the trick?
It worked for me. Before I tore down my 75 gal, I was able to grow just about any plant with T5HO, pressurized CO2, and a regular dosing schedule. I made a chart on Excel to help me keep track of what I dosed and when and made notes of the effects. Over a couple months, I was able to pinpoint exactly how much fert and how often it was needed to maintain a healthy tank.
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