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White sand suggestions

I am thinking of setting up my 20 gallon as an island, with a large stone in the middle and leafy plants around the periphery. I want to surround this little oasis (eco-complete substrate) with a nice white sand that is reminiscent of Caribbean bliss...

Any suggestions for a cheap white sand that would look somewhat natural and vibrant that would work well in freshwater? Aragonite will spike my pH and is no good for my uses. Play sand is a bit dark and rocky...

Just having a heck of a time finding something good :/


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Pool filter sand if you click my 15G link in my siggy you can see it

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wonderful! that is it! where can i buy this, a pool specialty store or any large hardware distributor like Lowes, HD, menards?

what brand is it or what type of sand at the very least? I'm guessing many varieties of ''pool filter sand" exist.


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I just walked into the local pool store and asked for a bag LOL it was only $7.50 for a 50 pound bag too YESsssssss.. I just rinsed it a few times in the sink and waalaa , the stuff is great ...

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Alright! I know right where a pool store is. I'll swing by it tomorrow! thanks so much for your suggestion


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No problem , I got the idea from here too LOL

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I've been doing some research and silica sand is a breeding ground for diatom algae. Have you experienced this? Should I be expecting a problem? I am not sure I really want an army of snails to thwart this concern... *sigh*

Any alternatives? Aragonite in saltwater tanks is their solution, but that would kill my CRS or render them sterile at the very least :/


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20/20 or just #20 is the largest grain size and what you want. Diatom algae will appear in a planted tank sand or not from time to time as the chemistry of the water changes. None of us are perfect. I've been reading on the subject of sand as a substrate for a new project tank.
Raking the surface (moving it a bit) from time to time (weekly water changes) just to stir the surface a little and it should be good.


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Sounds good. I'll give it a shot #20 white pool filter sand.


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ADA has some sand, but only two are a light color. These are the Nile and Branco Sand.
http://www.adgshop.com/Decorative_Sand_s/23.htm

There are different colors of pool filter sand. So, check it out before you purchase it. You can collect some of the spillage on the skids or floor where the sand is. Then you can compare them and then get the color that you like the best.

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Left C is right. Some of the pool filter sand sold is more a cream color than solid white color. Estes makes a pure white marine sand that (as stated on the package) is supposed to be safe for fresh water planted tanks. I have no experience with it but I know Waterfaller uses it, so hopefully she will chime in about her experiences with it. It is not as cheap as pool filter sand. IME, I have used pool filter sand and am not convinced that the high silica content gives ongoing diatom algae. The diatom algae that I got when I set up a tank using it, lasted only 4-6 weeks which is normal for any new setup, and a otocat I put in the tank made short work of it. It was never an ongoing problem algae.
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I really like pool filter sand. The stuff that I have purchased has been very clean with no dust at all, so I think that it is unlikely contribute much silica to water.

Does anybody know about grain sizes for pool filter sand? Are there different sizes? I would like to find something just a bit larger than the material that I have.
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Estes makes a pure white marine sand that (as stated on the package) is supposed to be safe for fresh water planted tanks. I have no experience with it but I know Waterfaller uses it, so hopefully she will chime in about her experiences with it.
Yes I do, it's fine & very white. Does not raise PH in my experience. It needs to be wet before you use it, or it floats for a few days. I wet it in a bucket, and run my hands through it a few times a day to get it to settle.
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I really like pool filter sand. The stuff that I have purchased has been very clean with no dust at all, so I think that it is unlikely contribute much silica to water.

Does anybody know about grain sizes for pool filter sand? Are there different sizes? I would like to find something just a bit larger than the material that I have.

I think that what most of us are using as far as pool filter sand goes is #20. There is supposedly a larger grain #16, but I have yet to find anybody who sells it or knows where to get it. Thats what I am after too, if you find some let me know.
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I can not find white sand anywhere. Called 6 pool supply stores today. No one carries white. grrrr frustrating. Anyone have any ideas?


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