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so I want to redo my 75g with new substrate, advice please.

Its been set up for just over a year. I have safe t sorb in there now. Its been nothing but headaches and has made things difficult for me. I am finally ready to do a full tear down and put some new substrate in there. I just don't know what route I want to go. This is where you folks come in.

My plant choices will not change from what I have now, which is:
- crypts
- aponogetons
- swords
- hygro willow
- anubias
- lilly/lotus i am not sure which one I have
-bolbitus

Things I dislike about safe t sorb and reasons for me changing substrate.
- its too lightweight, doesn't hold plants down well
- it clouds water easily when disturbed (i got lots of bottom dwellers)
- it seriously messes up water parameters (soften water and removes gh / calcium)
- i don't feel its cec value outweighs all the negatives
- don't like the color any more
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I want to ensure that whatever substrate I use is going to not alter my water and be safe to drop my fish in shortly after setup. I have a full stock which I will be housing in a giant cooler while I do the rescape / substrate swap.

I head eco complete can raised ph and gh kh. I am worried about dirt because of ammo spike. what do I use?

This is my first tank and never did something like this before. Extremely nervous about my fish and plants, as i don't want to lose them through this process but I need to get rid of this substrate.

help please.

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So what' happening with your 2 water change per week?:
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I have been cutting back on my ferts more and more, realizing that in a true low tech tank uptake can be as low as 10x less than a high tech setup..

I have also go ahead and increase my water changes to two times a week at 50-60%. I feel like this will ensure things like GH oh and pH don't have a chance to waver and will allow for more stable conditions. It will also allow me to feed heavily and still maintain low levels of nitrates.

Less organics means less algae.
What makes you believe the problem is the Safe T Sorb? Do you have dirt under it?


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Still doing the 2 water changes a week. But I still want the get rid of this stuff.

I don't got dirt under.

I was thinking about going with Carib sea super natural Tahitian moon black sand.

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EcoComplete did not raise my PH. I presently have gravel in a 55, EcoComplete in a 55, FloraMax in a 35, ADA Aquasoil Malaya in a 10, and Miracle Gro in another 10.

ADA Aquasoil is the best, but EcoComplete is a good 2nd.


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It may not of raised yours but I have read many posts where people say that it has. Not going to risk it. The more I read the more I like the idea of inert sand.

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Just worry about it packing too tight around the roots of the plants.

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You could try Fluval Stratum. Maybe Brooksie will elaborate on his Brightwell substrate. He has a thread on AA with a "killer" planted tank.


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black diamond is really nice looking in a tank just make sure to rinse it well i am about to switch to in on my next day off work after finally making the decision after seeing some tanks with it in person,


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I was looking for black diamond blasting sand locally but seems like we cannot get that stuff here in Ontario Canada. At least I can't find it.

So it seems like Carib sea tms will work, although I will end up spending a fair bit more but that's okay.

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Flourite black sand would work to.. this is a tank with flourite black under a regular black sand cap.(reg. Flourite mixed in, broken tank switch story)Click image for larger version

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So what's the difference between that and normal flourite?

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And isn't flourite clay? Which means it will soften my water which is what sts does now.

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So what's the difference between that and normal flourite?
you can see it! Normal flourite has surfaced on the right side, it's course clay type. The flourite black sand is basically the size of pfs and the fine is almost a dust. I layered the fine under the regular with the regular sand on top. Regular chunky flourite was at the very bottom but a year later with 9 corys and gravity...
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Flourite black sand would work to.. this is a tank with flourite black under a regular black sand cap.(reg. Flourite mixed in, broken tank switch story)Attachment 465865
Awesome tank man.


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