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Unhappy Dust From Eco-Complete

I received a 75g for Christmas. My wife gave me Black Eco-Complete for the substrate. My problem is the fine dust that in a weeks time coats everything. My filter (C-360) needs to be cleaned weekly. Yesterday I noticed that I have a bit of algae on my spray bar so I took it out to clean it, when I took in apart there was this dust in the pipe. My question is Is this normal of Eco? I would rather not change the substrate.
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I didn't have any issues like that at all with Eco Complete.
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Mine was the same. Did you use the little white bags (bioclear or something) that came inside the EcoComplete bags? That stuff helps your filter catch all the excess dust in the water to make it crystal clear. Also as time passes, the fine particles in the substrate will filter down as the larger particles move up. I think you'll be fine.
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I added a zillion bags of eco and then let my 120 cycle for about 2 weeks....not a problem

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Same problem here in my 30g. Even after I removed the very fine grain there is still a lot of dust. The fine grain removed ended up on a 5 g tank. I'm not happy with those bags of Eco...but I used it almost 2 years ago when setting up my 90 g and there were no problems. Maybe the company decided to go cheap somewhere along the way.


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I bought some eco-complete about a year agi and did not have this problem but then i bought some more last week to mix in with what i had and i had the same problem with the dust. Everytime i move something when it settles back down there is dust all over my plants and everything else. I they changed something in the subsrtate, since the last time i bought it.

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Mine was the same. Did you use the little white bags (bioclear or something) that came inside the EcoComplete bags? That stuff helps your filter catch all the excess dust in the water to make it crystal clear. Also as time passes, the fine particles in the substrate will filter down as the larger particles move up. I think you'll be fine.
Yep, used all 5 of them. You're right about clearing the water. My problem is that this is a continuing thing. I have Flourite in a 30g tank and Aquariumplants substrate in a 55g with no problems. I didn't know if this was a common thing.
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I don't think mine even came with any little white bags of stuff? I set my tank up with it about 1.5 years ago tho. It does sound like it's changed since then.
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I just redid my tank with 6 boxes of ECO they all had a white bags bioclear that binds the dust together, it still kicks up a little during my gravel cleaning not much. I still like it the dust will settle down to the bottom of your tank in a bit.
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Is that what the little white bag is for, I thought that it was just a dechlorinater to not kill the live bacteria in the bag. I used Prime instead and I still have 10 or 11 of those little bags kicking around. I didn't have much of a dust problem though, the tank cleared up within 48hrs.
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I don't think mine even came with any little white bags of stuff? I set my tank up with it about 1.5 years ago tho. It does sound like it's changed since then.
ya mine didn't come with the little white bags back then either

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Just posted the following on another thread.

All the flourite products (most others too) need to be well rinsed prior use. For the finer products paint stores (what ever company) sell 5gal. bucket nylon strainer bags pretty cheap $2.00 or less for singles. Contractor use they don't last long, pretty much disposable. Their big enough to line an empty bucket some even have elastic around the top to help hold them. They work well filled about 1/2 way hose fill the bucket with water several times working the bag around and you'll lose most of the dust and a few fines.
If you don't drag the bag on rough concrete or snag it on something sharp they'll last you a life time.

I know Eco-complete states "no rinse needed or recommended" Loaded nothing but Eco-complete black when I set up a new 75g last year in May. Ended up with dust/clouding issues for MONTHS afterwards. Set up a 75g set up with rinsed flourite and the water was cleared overnight. We have untreated well water available and personally I'll never use unrinsed substrate again.
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