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Eco-Complete, Flourite Black, or Aquasoil II

I will be setting up a 10 gallon nano and i would like to know what substrate would be better for my type of setup. I am on a budget so i co2 is out of the question. I will probably have a few corys/substrate dwellers so the substrate needs to be safe for them. I will have some anubias, crypts, vallisnerias, some ground cover, and some java ferns. I will be mainly making the aquascape with driftwood. Also, ive heard that eco can make your kh go higher??? I really dont want that cuz my water is pretty high already. I would most likely go for either 1 bag of eco or 1 bag of flourite black or flourite black sand. Which would be a better substrate for me to use?

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E-C has had some QC issues in the past and recently. I believe that Green Leaf Aquariums has some E-C that is OK. It may buffer the water for a while, but after a few water changes it should go away. You may want to PM GLA with some questions about E-C.

Flourite Dark, Black or Black Sand are all good substrates.

Just pick out which one of these four substrates that you like and go with it.

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The thing is, i have never seen flourite black or sand in an established tank... i have seen eco and it looked great for my tastes. So if i dont actually see a flourite based tank in person i will go with eco cuz of how it looks. But i wouldnt want any problems with it...
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The eco will be a bit more Cory friendly. The flourite is pretty sharp, and large.
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Thats what i was thinking from the pictures. Eco is like rounded gravel and sand.
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Also worth considering is Fluorite Black needs to be washed GOOD before using, and it doesn't have any beneficial bacteria colonies already living in there. Eco-Complete does NOT need to be washed, and it DOES have beneficial bacteria.

They both look good, from what I've seen of fluorite in pics. I only use EC though.
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have they fixed all the quality control issues they were having?

The one thing I would say about eco-complete that I don't like is the fact that weight of the bag doesn't reflect the actual weight of the substrate one would receive. This is yet another reason I chose aquasoil (not an option, I know); it's cheaper than eco-complete and, in my opinion, a superior substrate. If you have hard water, stay away from eco-complete. You should consider aquasoil: it will lower both your hardness and pH....
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Ya actually thanks for bringing up aquasoil. I was thinking of it. But i cant get it local, i would have to go to phoenix which is about 2 hours from where i live. And i dont have much time with school and such.
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phoenix? you can get AS in phoenix?

have you considered ordering AS?
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Ya...phoenix,arizona. Sry, didnt know there was another one.LOL Where can i order AS?
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what I mean is: who carries aquasoil in phoenix?

you can order from aqua design group (ADG) or aqua forest aquarium (AFA). here are the links; I've ordered from both and can relate nothing but wonderful experiences; The Senskes (at ADG) and Lo's (AFA) are extremely helpful, knowledgeable, and a pleasure to do business with.

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what about a black sand like black beauty or Tahitian and mix in some laterite or flourish tabs... ur cory's might like it better? I know eco is easier but it was going to be so expensive when i was considering.

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Then i have to put tabs in. I really dont wanna do that as of today. I'd rather get a nice plant substrate. BTW- aquatouch carries ada soil.
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All substrates will aid in fertilization once they become well cycled. Aquasoil only helps in the beginning.
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All substrates will aid in fertilization once they become well cycled. Aquasoil only helps in the beginning.
I dont think thats true. Normal gravel/sand doesnt have minerals,iron, etc. It will get bacteria on it but the minerals dont just pop out of nowhere.
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