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Aqua Soil's yellow = Nutrients?

Amazonia Aqua Soil's humus can turn the water yellow. Frequent water changes, time, and a good carpet will eventually eliminate it, from what I've read.

My question is, is there any benefit to not doing water changes to clear it? Meaning, is the humus-colored water nutrient-dense? (Currently my tank is one-day old with no fish, shrimp, and/or snails [presumably].)

To state my question even more clearly, is the yellow from the Amazonia just a color, or is it also indicative of nutrients that will eventually be absorbed by the plants?
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Some of the yellow color is typcially also coming from ammonia- so that's the problem.

If you don't mind tannin-colored water, then that by itself isn't a problem.





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Thanks, Laura.

So eventually, I imagine, I'll have a more-severe-than-usual bacteria bloom as the tank's cycle comes to grips with all that ammonia.

Hey, I can be patient this time around. I'll try this set up laissez-faire and let the tank do what it does with as little interference from me as possible. Once a week 20% water changes and peace of mind knowing that I can (really this time!) let go of the need to control every aspect of my tank.

Besides, with yellowish foggy water, it really matches the air here in California as of late with the fog and the smoke from the nearby forest fires.
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You might end up needing more than weekly 20% changes to get the N-bacteria stabilized; depending on your AquaSoil (each batch seems a bit different) you might need to do multiple weekly 50% PWC to keep the tank parameters from becoming so extreme even the bacteria are killed.

Have you considered starting the tank off emersed? I'll be doing this with my 29gal with AS: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...80-gallon.html





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If the degree of tannin-colored water is any indication of amount of ammonia present in my batch of Aqua Soil, then I think I got all the ammonia of all batches of all time! It almost looks like I can color Easter eggs in the thing!

I'll do 50%+ weekly water changes as you advised as I'd hate the tank to become an inhospitable container of Easter egg-coloring acidic death.

I kind of like the color, though. It looks a lot like a photo in Nature Aquarium Book 2008 of the Rio Negro. ADA describes it: "This unique color comes from leaf litter thickly deposited on the forest floor and the river bottom of the rainforest; the water contains plenty of organic acid discharged from the humus."

If only they could describe algae as such, maybe I'd learn to like to color of green coating some of my other tanks!

I'll just keep my eye on the tank's parameters and find that happy medium between what I think is beautiful and what nature knows is beautiful.

Thanks for your help.
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It's just tannins. Nutrients don't have a color (well, iron does). My best advice would be aggressive with your planting. You can plant right away! The more plants you have, the better you will fare. If you don't want to add fish right away, this is an even more ideal situation. Crank the CO2 and do NOT use high light! Plant, plant, and add some more plants. When I restarted my aquarium, I had to get all new plants which took forever to acclimate. I hit the algae phase, but since I had no fish, I cranked the CO2, focused on growing the plants (full nutrient regimen), and beat the algae down (yes, it really did go away on its own). Eventually, the plants kept growing and growing, and the tank cleared. Now all is well...very well.

Don't let a little ammonia spike scare you--too many people make it out to be some kind of boogie man hiding in your closet while you sleep. Ammonia is a plant nutrient! Have patience and see it through. Once you do, you'll see why ADA is the best commercial substrate on the market. Grow the plants...grow the plants...grow the plants...

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Thanks, Avalon.

I planted yesterday. I've got HC, Glosso, Four Leaf Clover, Anubias Nana Petite micro, mini Java Fern (very cute), and Christmas Moss. It's not as densely planted as it could be, but in few weeks, the ground should be fairly well covered. It is true in that because there are on fauna in this tank, I can give the plants what they want without worry of hurting anything else.

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