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Flourite to Aqua Soil Amazonia II

So I decided to change somehow from Flourite to Aqua Soil Amazonia II in my 29 gallon shrimp tank, but I have a bunch of shrimp in there now. After I put the Aqua Soil in a bucket with a power head and do daily water changes for approximately 2 weeks the ammonia should drop, right? I also got some power sand with it to help with the bacteria and cloudiness.

How does everyone recommend I change it over with the shrimp still occupying the tank? I was thinking possibly little by little changing it over. Maybe 1/8th or 1/4 of it, wait a month and do some more. Would all that be too stressful for the shrimp?

My tank is fully cycled for two years now or longer with flourite and just started the shrimp in it a month ago. Found out that hard water (well water) isn't so good with flourite and shrimp (correct me if not true). Some shrimp had survived so far but many were lost already. Getting more in tomorrow.
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Little by little probably won't work. Do a few searches in just this forum on cycling ADA ASII- you'll find it it can take a LONGGGG time, and release massive amounts of ammonia during the process- some ppl more than a month, but each batch can be different.

I've been doing my HW b/c I'll be starting up a new tank with the ASII soon, myself.





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Thanks for your help lauraleelbp. I've been trying to do my homework in between the animals (4 dogs & 1 very furry cat), house chores, basement water floods, shrimp fatalities, and hundreds of other stuff. Oh, and work!!

I will be purchasing a 10 gallon with HOB filter and stand today to house the shrimp and plants while the other is doing the cycling. I am willing to wait awhile I suppose for it to do it's thing.
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You're probably not going to like to hear this, but my suggestion would be to get a 10g tank and transfer your shrimp in there. While the shrimp are in their new home, cycle the 29g with the amazonia. I've been cycling my 90g with amazonia II for 6 weeks or so and I still have traces of ammonia, so it can take a really long time for things to stabilize. You can use the 10g as a quarantine tank in the future, or just plant it up and have yourself another tank (to go with your 29g, 4 dogs and 1 very furry cat)! Sounds like you've got plenty of free time to for another tank! Good luck!
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You read my mind! And made me laugh out loud (har-har). This is what I was waiting for. An idea that someone could throw at me.

Thanks Coleman...that's EXACTLY what I plan to do. EXACTLY!! I'm buying the 10 gallon and stand today on sale at Petco (I currently don't have a H/T so this will serve as both). I'm gonna put half or more of the cycled flourite in the H/T and it should fill it up. Then some plants, let it clear up for a day or so, then the shrimp. I'm sure that I'm gonna get the axe from the sig. other for the other tank. "WHAT IF ONE LEAKS?" "HOW COME YOU NEVER SPEND ANY TIME WITH ME?" "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO WASTE ALL THAT MONEY ON SUCH A STUPID HOBBY?"

Oh ya, I also have the 55 gallon with all the fish.
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d, I'm glad you're getting another tank for your shrimp while the Amazonia II leaches. Mine is on day 42 and has finally stabilized. Yayyyyy! If someone had asked my opinion of Amazonia II a couple of weeks ago I would probably have given a big ole raspberry but as of today I'm a grinning fool.
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Is that substrate really that good to put up with having to cycle it? I'm not trying to imply an opinion, I am honestly curious.

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I think the Amazonia I isn't as bad as the Amz II

I have Amz II though that I'll soon be setting up to try it out for myself... I've always used Fluorite till now.





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I have been using Flourite for the most part and some of the foreground plant roots have had troubles getting deep enough to penetrate it. From what I've read the Amazonia is completely awesome for the planted tank. Sure, you have to put up with some stuff at first, but the end result says it all. They all say that the plants go completely crazy over it.
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Ever since Jeff mentioned he wouldn't use Amazonia II, people really seem to have it out for the Amazonia II. I've been using it and have had absolutely no problems; no clouding, no bacterial blooms, no decomposition, no nothing! I have seen exceptional growth in my stems; my d. diandra that I planted two weeks ago (ut was about 5" tall) is now only a few inches from the waters surface (I have a 25" tall tank). Now I know no one's trying to suggest that Amazonia II isn't good at growing things, because we all know that simply isn't the case. Let me post the specs anyway:

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Aqua Soil Amazonia has been used by many planted aquarium hobbyists around the world, as base substrate material for growing aquatic plants. Aqua Soil Amazonia is produced from black soil with rich organic substances, helping the plant growth, and most aquatic plant species can grow in healthy condition with Amazonia. But, in the alkaline base water*, there are rare case reports that organic substance such as humic acid may seep into the water, and cause water coloring or cloudiness. So this time Aqua Design Amano introduced "Aqua Soil-Amazonia II", a new Amazonia type substrate, produced with different black soil mixture ratio, preventing water coloring or cloudiness. As the base color or plant growing pattern is slightly different from original Amazonia. Please select them according to your needs and preference. But if your base water* is alkaline, we recommend to use Amazonia II.

*Base Water refers to all types of water used for the aquarium, including tap water, groundwater, or aquarium tank water.
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FEATURES

1. Amazonia II has less incident of water coloring or cloudiness.
2. It contains black soil, appropriate for water plants growth, and its natural color matches well with planted aquarium.
3. It lowers pH and KH, and makes ideal water condition for most plants and tropical fish.
SPEC

Completely new substrate made from specially processed natural material from the earth.
Colloid particles capture dirt floating in the water, without any chemical treatment.
Gives clarity to the water and creates conditions ideal for healthy growth of aquatic plants.
Helps to lower the hardness level of the water.
Helps to bring the pH level of the water down to an ideal level for most of the aquatic plants.
Composed of granules of size and density ideal for the fast development of healthy plant root systems, rather conventional substrates such as sand.
Granules maintain their shape for a long period in water, holding air between them, which is vital for the long time maintenance of a planted aquarium.
Used with Power Sand stimulates the fast colonization of bacteria in the substrate and creates perfect conditions for plant root systems.
Most desirable pH level for most aquatic plants(ph 5.5 - 6.5) to develop their root systems.
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i did the same thing switched over from the florite to ada aquasoil 2, the process took 2 months for my ammonia to settle down, and previous to that this tank was running for 5 years. I had my fish in a 5 gallon bucket with a small filter and tankwater. The fish made it but myone yellow shrimp didnt. But the aquasoi made a big difference in plant growth so it was worth it in the long run
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