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Question Flourite black vs Flourite black sand

Yes, yet another 'which substrate do I use' thread from a planted newbie. I've narrowed my choices for substrate for the 75 gallon I'm setting up to either Flourite black, or Flourite black sand. (That is, until I change my mind yet again... ). Since I would need to order either on-line, I'd like to get as much info as I can on both of them. So, if anyone has any opinions on the following aspects of the two, I'd like to hear them:

A) Looks

B) Ease of setup - how much rinsing, do I need laterite, peat, or anything else under it, etc

C) Ease of maintenance - once set up, how easy is it to rescape without clouding the water, pull up plants, it's ability to hold plants in place, etc

D) Plant health - is either one 'better' for the plants health?

Any opinions on those, or any other aspects, would be greatly appreciated!
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Both would be fine as far as im concerned, I used Eco Complete in my 75 gallon, and have had great success, I removed my flourite after a few months of slow growth. I went with eco complete because there was no rinsing required, and it comes packed wet. Some people have complained about large chucnks in their eco, yet I bought 6 bags for my 75 and all were perfectly fine, no chunks. You can get it at www.drfostersmith.com they do not charge additional shipping for heavy items such as substrates, and the price was right. They also carry the flourite if you decide to go with that. Good luck
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How deep is the eco-complete in your 75 gallons? Using the subtrate calculator on this site it says I need 8 bags to get a 3" deep layer.
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Mine is about 2" deep, and I have had no problems keeping the plants rooted.
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I have flourite red, 3" depth and with proper tank care my plants grow like weeds.
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Growth probably isn't an issue as long as you dose firtz (it my understanding that the substrate absorbs the nutrients I think). It Flourite so you are going to need some heavy rinsing for the plain black, I'm not sure how the sand would do with rinsing. people have done just plain Flourite with nothing else under it so I would think it's not necessary though peat probably would not hurt. i think it really come's down to is what you like better. personal i've never seen the sand but would really like to try it. you could also mix the two together.

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I'm interested in mixing both the black adn black sand, depending on cost in my 75.

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100% Black Flourite, 3" deep, 90Gallon

Plants grow like crazy
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Best cost I can find is at Big Al's, 15.99 a bag for either the black, or the black sand. With $40.77 shipping to my place, 6 bags would cost me $136.68. I haven't been able to find it in any local fish stores, even That Fish Place.
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is 6 enough for a 75? I would probably order 7-8 as I like to build hills and scapes with it.

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I used this calculator to come up with the 6 bag amount for a 75 gallon, 3 inches deep:

https://www.plantedtank.net/substratecalculator.html

It comes up with 90 lbs needed. At 15 lbs a bag, that's 6 bags.
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is 6 enough for a 75? I would probably order 7-8 as I like to build hills and scapes with it.

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Yes, it will be plenty. I used 5 bags of Flourite Black on my 72 Gallon Bow. 7-8 is more than enough I would probably just order 7.
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I used this calculator to come up with the 6 bag amount for a 75 gallon, 3 inches deep:

https://www.plantedtank.net/substratecalculator.html

It comes up with 90 lbs needed. At 15 lbs a bag, that's 6 bags.
Yes, that is probably more than enough, I could get by with 5 bags at 3 inches deep. The easiest way to know how much is to first place one bag in a corner. You can probably visualize the amount of bags you need aterwards. Good luck with your 75 gallon.
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try www.drfostersmith.com they do not charge extra for bulk items to be shipped I bought 8 bags of Eco Complete and it only cost me 15.99 to ship them.
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try www.drfostersmith.com they do not charge extra for bulk items to be shipped I bought 8 bags of Eco Complete and it only cost me 15.99 to ship them.
This must be a new change. When I priced out $60 worth of Eco a few months back, shipping was like another $35 on top of that!





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