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Is peat beneficial when using Fluorite?

Hey, I'm setting up a new low-tech tank, and I was looking to use fluorite capped with play sand.

Would peat under the fluorite be beneficial for root feeders, or does the fluorite have all that they'll need?

Also, will there be any problem capping the fluorite with play sand?

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The sand will settle down into the flourite, so it likely won't be worth it in the long run. As for the peat, I have used in with flourite in the past, and it didn't cause any problems. Flourite doesn't really have a lot in the way of "nutrients," in the sense of N, P, or K, so the plants will need these from another source (fertilizers, root tabs, fish waste, etc.) Having said that, it is still a very good substrate. The peat basically helps to acidify the lower levels of the substrate, providing a good environment for bacteria to grow, which will help break down waste

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Thanks.

I'll pass on the sand and just use the fluorite.
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In addition to lowering pH (go easy with it if you don't want really acidic water) the peat also adds some vitamins for the plants- I think A and E but don't quote me? lol



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I have exactly this in my 90 gallon, and the play sand will sink to the the bottom and mix with the Flourite.

I used peat pellets on the bottom of the tank. Hard to say what the benefits are as I don't have anything to compare to, but the fish and plants do well.

If you need acidic, soft water, this is one way to do it.
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okay, I went with straight fluorite dark, beautiful stuff btw. I took the lazy route and added it without washing. Even with the fill/drain method, it looked like chocolate milk. I won't do that again. I do need another bag though to get a decent gradient (damn mail orders).

Edit: I will be using peat capped with playsand in my 30 long.
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Unless you want a seriously acidic tank, go very easy on the peat (like a very light dusting on the bottom)



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okay, I went with straight fluorite dark, beautiful stuff btw. I took the lazy route and added it without washing. Even with the fill/drain method, it looked like chocolate milk. I won't do that again. I do need another bag though to get a decent gradient (damn mail orders).

Edit: I will be using peat capped with playsand in my 30 long.
I used Flourite Dark in my 20H and I found it to be quite large compared to regular Flourite.

I assumed (incorrectly) there was only a color difference but when compared side by side the Dark has larger gravel than the regular Flourite.

If I had it to do over, I may have topped the Dark with something smaller or not used it at all. I find the larger gravel size, makes it a little tougher to grow carpeted fore grounds like HC.
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I will be using peat capped with playsand in my 30 long.
Not sure on that.

First off, as lauraleellbp, I think peat really should be just dusted on the bottom of the aquarium before adding the substrate. Just enough peat to be beneficial to the substrate, but not so much as it starts to become a major force in water parameters. A "layer" of peat to me is too much.

Peat and sand sounds like it has the potential to be a big mess. Seems to me the peat has a greater potential to mix in with the sand more than it would some form of heavier substrate as you plant and replant.


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I agree. If you add peat, you should only add it to the point where you are still able to see the glass

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IMPO I wouldn't use sand at all- I hate the stuff. But diff strokes for diff folks- and some ppl have gotten great results with it.

I thought I was making the point that if he uses peat under the sand he needs to use very little? lol



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IMPO I wouldn't use sand at all- I hate the stuff. But diff strokes for diff folks- and some ppl have gotten great results with it.

I thought I was making the point that if he uses peat under the sand he needs to use very little? lol
Sand can be hard to keep clean.

I think we were just agreeing with you/reinforcing the point, Laura

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