Does soil need a cap? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 12:12 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
anastasisariel's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Posts: 987
Does soil need a cap?

Just asking if soil needs to be capped with sand or another substrate as I see a lot of talk of this and I am considering doing my first dirted tank.

Jarod
I'm in the Saint Louis, MO area and always looking to connect with other planted tank enthusiasts.

75 Gallon low tech
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

29 Gallon High Tech
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
anastasisariel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 12:35 AM
Algae Grower
 
JwDiedrich16's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: IL
Posts: 123
yes
or eles you will have a mess
JwDiedrich16 is offline  
post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 01:04 AM
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: ottawa
Posts: 292
Quote:
Originally Posted by JwDiedrich16 View Post
yes
or eles you will have a mess
x2

And be careful filling the tank initially!

It will likely be the most fun and most rewarding thing you will ever do to your tank!!!

Only bad things happen quickly.
A little allot is better than allot a little.
wrm130 is offline  
 
post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 01:31 AM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Axelrod12's Avatar
 
PTrader: (12/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Milford, Connecticut
Posts: 667
Absolutely. And just a tip for filling, wet the dirt some just not so much that it's runny at all, otherwise it will work its way over the cap.

Greg

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
,
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Axelrod12 is offline  
post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 01:33 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
PTrader: (7/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Merriam, Ks
Posts: 1,949
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axelrod12 View Post
Absolutely. And just a tip for filling, wet the dirt some just not so much that it's runny at all, otherwise it will work its way over the cap.
This this this, I learned my lesson on my most recent tank. I haf dirt floaties for several days after. I used a hose and dripped it until the water was above the substrate. Wet the soil and pat it down some. Then cap and fill.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Italionstallion888 is offline  
post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 02:57 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Optix's Avatar
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: May 2011
Location: derrty south
Posts: 739
Technically no...but it will take weeks for the soul to get water logged enough to make that statement true so...

the best option is to cap it and enjoy your tank quickly


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Fraternity, Inc. #33
Optix is offline  
post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 05:29 PM
Algae Grower
 
chan1011's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by anastasisariel View Post
Just asking if soil needs to be capped with sand or another substrate as I see a lot of talk of this and I am considering doing my first dirted tank.
My other piece of advice is to try and look for soil with advertised contents. Make sure there are NO non-organic fertilizers, those white stones. Animal waste as an additive is fine. Look for those all-organic type soils, that's what I'm using right now, just got from Home Depot they are around $3 a bag.

Perlite on the other hand is perfectly fine, they two look like white stones, but will be crushed to powder between your fingers. Although it looks like fertilizer it's actually an inert super porous stone that's good for aeration.
chan1011 is offline  
post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 06:18 PM
Planted Member
 
aquabruce's Avatar
 
PTrader: (2/100%)
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Milford, MA
Posts: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axelrod12 View Post
Absolutely. And just a tip for filling, wet the dirt some just not so much that it's runny at all, otherwise it will work its way over the cap.
+1. I turn MTS/dirt into thick mud before adding it to the tank, then cap.
aquabruce is offline  
post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-18-2014, 07:53 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
talontsiawd's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 4,838
Send a message via AIM to talontsiawd
You don't need a cap but it does a few things. It keeps your tank from getting cloudy when you fill, water change, move things around. This also keeps your filter cleaner. Even though the soil will leach nutrients in the water column regardless, as the cap compacts, it's much less so which makes it easier with higher light and co2, less chance algae outbreaks, and BGA outbreaks from organics. Lastly, most think it's more attractive. IMO, it's worth doing as it makes life much easier. For myself, I tend to use way less soil than most I don't get any of the negatives of a dirted tank by using less dirt, bigger cap.

-Matt

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
talontsiawd is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome