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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-21-2008, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
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Guess the substrate

Simple, Which one of the following is eco-complete?

A.


B.


B. In tank


Comparison side by side of A and B
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A is eco complete, and B looks like Flourite Dark.


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People are getting new Eco recently with shades of red brown grey. I think this is the new Eco Complete. The old ones are pure black.
Eco complete perhaps that Cabri Sea is running out of Eco? or reaching almost the point where other gravels are found.

Im not sure but these are my opinion

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Yeah, my Eco Complete was not pure black. I just got it weeks ago. Its still very dark, but it does have bits of red and gray pebble in it. I did see a few MTS looking shells, as well. Doesn't matter so much to me what it looks like. I capped it with Deep River gravel by Estes.


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Im going with both. Never had eco but it seems kinda inconsistent.


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Frozenbarb, I don't know if they can really "run out" of Eco-Complete. Its manufactured. As long as they have the right ingredients, which shouldn't be hard to come by, they should be able to make it.

I can only assume they reformulated for some reason. Somewhat disappointing to some, I guess, but as long as it has the trace elements like they claim, I'm cool with it. My bag still had plenty of 1-3mm size pieces in it, which is the best part about it.
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But its Harvested from nature.
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eco is taken from nature. the older eco is much better, it is darker and contains more humus (the nutritious organic material in soil). by now they got down to layers with less humus, and the variation in color results from the black rock being transported material not residual material (transported is soil that has been moved by rivers or glaciers or wind, residual is from the bedrock directly underneath). however the new eco has smaller grains, thats a plus for most plants.

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I too was disappointed that the new Eco wasn't the black color that I expected. Also, while stirring up my EC today, I found a tiny clam shell. Very interesting new mix. Not what I expected.
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I've never used eco but is it possible these other colors of gravel and bits of mts/shells are being added as filler/fluff to make a little more money by using less actual original type eco product per bag? (Similar to bars watering down their liquor to extend profits per bottle)


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well?
which is it?
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And the answer is....

They are both eco-complete and I emailed carib-sea regarding my great dissatisfaction with the bag and they offered to replace it so I am happy. They stated it must have made it past their quality control and were happy to replace the product.

I bought this bag for my new 2.5g that I plan on planting HC in and I was very upset after I opened the bag compared to my last purchase and at nearly 28 dollars with tax thats a lot of money for a college student.
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Made it past their quality control?? More like made it past their entire process for manufacturing substrate.

What a sham, it is not a good time for substrates. ADA is looking better every day.


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that weird substrate in your picture looks like the material that Caribsea screens out after the mining of the normal black Eco Complete, with the cracker jack prize addition of a cerith snail from an aragonite pile.


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Try Flourite Black sand.

Gnarly stuff, and heavier and easier to plant in than EC.
Costs a lot less too.

But you have to rinse it.

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My bag of eco complete also looks like the picture B <grumble>.
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And while as per instructions I didn't rinse it, I should have. It made the water really cloudy.
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