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Question substrate suggestions

I will be starting a 29 gallon soon with 65w of light and pressurized CO2. I also will be dosing.

On my past tanks (10 gallons) I have used eco-complete and it has served me well, but it was very costly ($30 at my lfs). I don't want to spend $60 on just substrate so thats why i made this thread.

What would you suggest for substrate? Should I just stick with just eco-complete, or should I mix it up with other substrates?

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When I setup my 29 gallon, I will be completely taking down my 10 gallon tank. Is is ok if I use the eco-complete that has been sitting in there?

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I paid slightly more than $20 for Eco at my LFS, but I wound up using 3 bags. If you have eco in there and you like the depth, I would say go ahead and use it. Nothing wrong with Eco.

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Don't mix. Get Soilmaster Select. It's cheap.
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I can't find in HD or Lowes around my area, but I think I do have a Lesco dealer somwhere around here.

Does SMS give the same results as Eco-complete or other aquarium plant specific substrates?

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I can't find in HD or Lowes around my area, but I think I do have a Lesco dealer somwhere around here.

Does SMS give the same results as Eco-complete or other aquarium plant specific substrates?

The only substrates that I tested were Schultz Aquatic Soil, Fluorite, a mixture of Seachem Fluorite and Schultz Aquatice Soil, Topsoil, and Seachem Onyx sand capped over some peat moss, leonardite, and mulm. The fluorite and Schultz sucked at growing stem plants. The Seachem Onyx grew stem plants well and seemed to perform the best of all. Plants are growing at a snail's pace in a Natural Planted tank with Top Soil. I currently set up a ADA Aquasoil II test tank, but it is too early to say how well it is performing. I have no experience with SMS and Eco-Complete but these are on my list of substrates to test. Perhaps MrKookm can chime in, but check out MrKoom's 20 gallon with SoilMaster Select substrate over root tabs. Keep in mind that this is a high tech tank with respect to c02, light, and fert dosing and I believe it is this combined and not just substrate responsible for such a dream tank. Plus he probably had some nice healthy plants to start off with, which always makes a difference. It is MrKookm's success that I am trying so desperately to replicate and it is absolutely beautiful tank that sparked my interest in testing Soil Master Select. Unfortunately, although I have some on standby, it is going to have to wait. I just set up a test tank using ADA Aquasoil II and have no more room to set up any more test tanks.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...ibilities.html

This is an interesting step by step by MatPat for setting up a tank using SMS. Unlike MrKookm, however, MatPat did not cap root tabs with SMS.
https://www.plantedtank.net/articles/...-Substrate/26/

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