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BEST substrate for a planted 10 gal?

I've been looking at different substrates (Flourite, Eco-Complete, and Aqua Soil to be exact) and I'm debating between those three as a substrate for my tank. Which one do you guys think is the best?
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I think the growth difference you'll see between them will be pretty trivial - just pick the one you think looks best, since they all grow plants well if you have good light, co2, and ferts.


If you had to pick one "best", it might be Aquasoil. It has a rough start up time because of ammonia leaching, but it's very rich and lends itself well to a leaner water column, if that's what you're going for. You can find many good threads about it using the search function


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Flourite is the worst. then eco, then aquasoil is the best for sure.
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Approximately how much does it bring the pH down?
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ive heard alot about kitty litter and its WAY cheeper. check out the strings around this site. I will be trying it on my next tank for sure.
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But then again, I see some planted tanks on here that have success with Flourite
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Bite the bullet and go for the best - ADA Aquasoil Amazonian I or II.
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Thats what I use. The only main reason is I can get it locally for around $20 usually. I've heard that there is next to no difference between this and ADA AS.

Works well for me,
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Yea Florabase is better if you can get it locally. Its better then Eco Complete/Flourite I think . You can say almost at the same level as Aquasoil.

But my lfs sells them 30$ for a bag...

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Yea Florabase is better if you can get it locally. Its better then Eco Complete/Flourite. You can say almost at the same level as Aquasoil.

But my lfs sells them 30$ for a bag...
That is highly debatable as you can see from comments of some members who tried Florabase. Some claim that it starts out great growing plants, but then over time turns to mush easily kicks up a brown storm and residual sediment dust on leaves and glass when it is disturbed by fish, and is very hard to plant small plants like HC in it, so I would not go so far as say that it is better than eco-complete and fluorite and at the same level as ADA Aquasoil as you are not likely to see these issues with those substrates. Florabase is comparable to Turface as folks such as Tom Barr have noted, but Turface is a lot cheaper and will not turn to mush over time. IMHO, some of the shortcomings of Florabase can be compensated for by mixing it with Seachem Onyx Sand or Pool Filter Sand, but this may only work as a short term fix as you may end up with seperation over time and the sand may settle to the bottom. Plus if you have to buy additional sand to use with Florabase, then there may not be much of a cost savings over Fluorite or Eco-Complete.

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So you're saying that in the long run, Flourite or Eco-Complete will be the best?
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I like to use flora base at the bottom, then eco on top. It has worked fantastic!
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Yea Florabase is better if you can get it locally. Its better then Eco Complete/Flourite I think . You can say almost at the same level as Aquasoil.

But my lfs sells them 30$ for a bag...
Yeah it helps me save on shipping from aquasoil basically.

Over a while all clay substrates similar to florabase and ada as do break down. I have a mix of this and gravel in my 55g thats fine two years later. Thinking about replacing it with ADA AS when I redo the tank in the next few months.

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As long as it isn't frequently disturbed, ADA AS will hold its integrity.

I've grown great plants in Fluorite, but ADA AS gave me better results. And, it even looks more natural.

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