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Great forum you have here.

I'm setting up my first real planted tank. It's only 10 gallons, but will have 2.4 - 3 watts per gallon, which I'm hoping is enough for a nice little variety of plants.

I'd like to know what is a dark substrate good for growing, yet safe for a betta, who will be the only inhabitant. The substrate must not be sharp or jagged, so as not to injure delicate fins.

Appreciate any advice!
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-01-2008, 10:04 PM
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The darkest substrate available would be Eco-Complete, its black and would be good for all plants and safe for your betta. Look through the photos here and you will see all kinds of examples and how they look, everyone normally tells what they use in the thread...
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I like ADA amazonia II. I'm using the powder. It's not as dark as Eco-complete, but it's dark enough for me. They're round balls, and not sharp.

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Awesome, thank you!

The Eco-complete is available to me, and I think I'll try that. It looks like the particles are small enough so they won't snag fin.

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I looked through your pics, and they're beautiful, but that substrate is not something I can get around here, as far as I know.
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Thanks. Oh, bummer. You're in Canada. I've heard stories of high import fees, but I'm not 100% sure they actually exist.

You can always calculate what it would cost to have it shipped right from ADG.
http://www.adgshop.com/

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Thanks for the link. 2, 9 litre bags of Amazonia II would cost nearly 100$ with shipping.

I guess it will be Eco complete for me.

Do you have pics anywhere of your 5.5 all finished and grown in?
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Dang. That is a bummer! I'm sure the EC will be just fine though too.

My 5.5 is still growing in. Still no water yet, but I update that thread regularly.

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How many pounds of the Eco complete do I need to make a nice deep substrate in a standard 10 gal- 20" x 10"?

Will 20 lbs do it?
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Well they only sell it in 20 lbs...I have 10 lbs gravel in my 10 gallon tank, and it fills up the tank approx. 1 1/4" up. so 20 lbs would probably fill it 2 1/2"
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So 1 1/4" is deep enough? 20 lbs is okay. I can use the rest in my 5 gallons and plant them too.
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I would think that 20lbs of Eco would be perfect for a 10. It is a fairly fine substrate. One word of caution:

It can scratch the crap out of glass if you get it between the algae cleaner and the glass. I know from experience.

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Really?? Thanks for the warning.
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Or, if you're on a budget, you can get Flourite
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Sorry to drag this thread up again, but upon shopping for substrates, I noticed one of them, a Flourite type, stated on the bag that it may change the tank's pH.

Do all plant substrates alter pH, and what kind of change are they talking about?
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