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Help With Shallow Substrate

So I'm dusting off the Mini M and setting it up as a moss only shrimp tank. I have always wanted to setup a tank with a shallow or thin layer of substrate. I like the white sand look but have heard of people having issues with it getting in their filter and messing it up. I also like the look of the fluval shrimp stratum but have never used it and hear some people say it turns to mush after a few months. I would like people to give me their opinion on either substrate or another that might work. Also I know ada Amazonia is great ( I have it in my 20L shrimp tank) but I don't want to order substrate considering shipping cost. This is just going to be a low cost setup.


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If the intake to the filter is high enough then the sand should not get into it.
Also, if the outlet of water from the filter does not kick up the substrate, that will help.

I really only had problems with one tank that way. A power head would blow the substrate too close to the filter intake. Adjusting the aim of the PH solved that.
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How about growing a moss carpet on an elevated mesh screen. You could wireframe it to provide areas of slope. You could then set it up on some egg crate. The substrate would then be added to hide the screen support. After the moss fills in, you would add your hardscape items. If wanted to add other plants, you could preplan cut outs in the screen for small pots filled with substrate. Wow, I think I just brainstormed my, oops, your tank. Just a suggestion. Good luck!


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Well I like the look of just plain substrate in the front and then add moss around the rocks towards the back.


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How about growing a moss carpet on an elevated mesh screen. You could wireframe it to provide areas of slope. You could then set it up on some egg crate. The substrate would then be added to hide the screen support. After the moss fills in, you would add your hardscape items. If wanted to add other plants, you could preplan cut outs in the screen for small pots filled with substrate. Wow, I think I just brainstormed my, oops, your tank. Just a suggestion. Good luck!


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Sound like an awesome plan, I'd like to see it play out.


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Standard 55 gallon club... We need one of those.
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I agree I would love to see that idea come to life. I would attempt it with this tank but I just have a different route I want to take. If you end up setting it up shoot me a link to the journal. If I went with sand what would be the best white sand to get that isn't going to discolor over time? Also if I'm only growing moss do I need to worry about root tabs or CFC or any of that stuff?


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I agree I would love to see that idea come to life. I would attempt it with this tank but I just have a different route I want to take. If you end up setting it up shoot me a link to the journal. If I went with sand what would be the best white sand to get that isn't going to discolor over time? Also if I'm only growing moss do I need to worry about root tabs or CFC or any of that stuff?

Sorry for taking so long to respond. Like I was saying, just thinking out loud and you were the catalyst and the victim.
With regard to sand discoloration, I would think that as long as your sand substrate didn't get too deep (denitrification processes) or come in contact with stones or bordering substrate that has an iron content (oxidation).
I've never grown any mosses in any of my project tanks so can't comment on root tabs or CFC but I'm sure if you pose that question in a forum, you'll find your answer. Good luck with the direction your taking on this tank.



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