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Did i get the right dirt?

Whats up guys,

I decided to go with dirt for my 110 high tech tank im starting soon, im going to go through the mineralizing process to try to cut down on the early algae outbreak in the first few weeks. In addition to going through the mineralizign process, im going to sift it for wood, stones, rocks, twigs and anything else that gets caught after each dry out period.

This is the article im going to be following.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=152027

I was just wondering if i got the right stuff. Here is a link to what i got.

http://www.ebstone.org/13_top_soil.php

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our Top Soil Plus doesn't contain any nutrient value,
hmm, I thought the idea of soil for substrate was to provide nutrients.

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Almost any organic soil will work.

Now a controversial topic is the idea of sifting the dirt, some people do some people dont. It all depends how you look at it. If you want to sift the dirt to get the larger pieces out so they dont "float up to the top" after a while or if you dont wanna sift and let the larger pieces in their for "better planting or aeration of the soil".

Sifting is up to you I have done it both ways, I always use the same soil Miracle Grow Organic Potting Mix but your should work as I said almost any organic dirt will work.

As far as the nutrient values, it strikes me as weird that that organic dirt claims to not have any. Almost all soil does have some sort of nutrient. However if that is true you can always supplement with clay and other things. The only downfall to this is basically dirt should take care of root tabs or substrate supplements.

I say give it a try and cap it with something that's know to hold nutrients, that way your getting the most out of it if it does have some nutrient value.


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I use whatever top soil the BBS has at that moment for under $2 per bag. I don't sift it. I don't mineralize it. I put it in the tank. Plant. Fill. Same day. Then I do water changes and wait a month before I add fish. Most of the time I wait.
Whatever floats I net out.
Don't take the stones out though if you do sift. They aren't going to float.

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I think what you got would be ok you got the right page about Mineralize that the one I use and it work out good my tank been up for 6 months and it doing good.
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So i opened the first bag and it was baisically a bag of sawdust.

here is a pic of what i sifted out, with very little dirt to speak of after the sifting.



So i returned all that i gotten and went to walmart and got the top soil i found there, its much better.

here is what i got from walmart, $2 a bag



sifted



I got four .75 cubic feet bags. i finished sifting 3/4 of one bag.... sifting is a PITA!

stay tuned for updates!

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I sifted the miracle grow and I have to say the scotts looks nice
not as much cotton wool looking stuff and the sticks are smaller
I might have to try that if I dirt a tank again...
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Great find! I paid $5 for an 8.8L bag of Miracle Gro and I sifted out a lot. I just bought another bag, but I may go get a bag of the top soil to try. Are you planning on adding anything to the topsoil?
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quick update on the mineralizing process


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this thread has been helpful for me, especially the mineralizing soil link.
Right I am still reading up on using MGO soil. so far i have seen more positive reviews than negative reviews on MGOS.
Looks like I'm going to set up the Fluval Spec V sooner than I have thought.

Thanks Sean W. for posting the link you had followed.
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I recently sifted the remainder of my bag of MGOCPM, and there wasn't really all that much I sifted out. Maybe about 1/2gallon worth of chunks, for a few gallons worth of sifted soil?

I just sifted through a coarse plastic canvas - the largest hole size I could find when I bought it, I'm guessing something like 4-5 squares per inch.

I also used a chunk of scrap lumber to 'push' and scrape the soil around, so I broke up a lot of the chunks, about all that didn't go through were solid chunks of bark, wood, and a few rocks.
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i have always used this with pool filter sand cap. i add a couple inches of this picking out the big bits of twig and bark and add sand on top and fill.

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i have always used this with pool filter sand cap. i add a couple inches of this picking out the big bits of twig and bark and add sand on top and fill.

wicca, that's the same bag of MG I have sitting here. Haven't begun to get started on prepping up on my nano planted tank...yet. Still have a few things to do first, Like getting plants and a better lighting for the Fluval Sepec V
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