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Ebay LIVE AQUARIUM FISH AQUATIC PLANTS SUBSTRATE GRAVEL?

Hi there i just purchased this substate gravel from ebay Item number: 110153996708
And wanted to know if if anybody has used the stuff?
If so what are your opinions on it?
I put it in my tank and it is cloudy but it is starting to clear up little by little as the day goes on.
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Hm.

I wonder what it is. I would've gone for a bag of Eco-Complete or AquaSoil.
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From ebay auction
Excellent gravel bed for aquarium plants. Made of black ground clay that contains essential elements for the well being of aquatic plants, such as iron. Gravel is very pourous and allow maximum oxygen for the roots.Does not cloud water.* Does not alter the water chemistry and 100% fish safe. You will see the difference when your plants clings on to the stuff!

You will be receiving 10 pounds. Enough for 20 gallons.


Guess that * means your tanks gets cloudy and no one elses
Just kidding not sure what is in it other then what is listed.

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he's doing the same thing aquariumplants.com does.
repacking Soilmaster Select and reselling it at a profit.
they get away with it because Lesco does not market
to this industry, it's a cheap bulk US domestic product,
and because it can be a pain in the ass for most end
users to buy from Lesco or a Lesco resellers directly.

wanna make $30? try to buy a 50lb bag of SMS locally.
get five Flat Rate USPS Priority boxes. line them with
a plastic grocery bag, fill them each up, then resell
them on ebaY, and after commissions you're left with
30% profit. hardly worth the effort for you and me,
but for a major plant reseller who can buy a container
full, and use his army of minimum wage plant packers
to prepare this for him, his profits go up considerably.


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I tend to agree with spy that its either SMS or a similar product.

I just ordered some SMS charcoal at our local Lesco and they had never heard of it used as an aquarium substrate. (At least the salesman I spoke to hadnt)
In time it wouldnt suprise me if Lesco (Whom is being merged with John Deere apparently) doesnt inflate the price and sell it as an aquarium product...lol

Either way, good luck


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It looks like SMS to me. Here's a picture of it in my tank. $15 including tax for a 50# bag. Not sure what he's adding to it to make it contain "essential elements for the well being of aquatic plants". Here's a pic of mine in my tank.

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Yup, that's SMS. Lesco's is on to us, guys! I talked to a different local store after the guy at mine wouldn't order me one bag, and he said that Lesco's is aware of this market and is thinking of marketing it under a different name.

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Wow And from aquadise too..
Looks like SMS too me.
And 10lb on a 20G Is a bit ridiculous I got 8 pound and it gve me 2.5"on a 10G
I cant believe that companys Vendors are Reselling SMS as a plant substrate..
And ripping people off. ITs only a Inert. It has hardly any Nutrients in it

you could of gotten 50lb with that 18 bucks,

One month in.
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Well i have had the stuff in my tank for about 18 hours now and it is still cloudy. Also if i move the subtrate around a puff o dust comes out. I rinsed the stuff as best as i could prior to adding.

So how do feel about Eco-Complete Plant Substrate it says no rinsing just add

Please reply back with your comments
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I have Eco and Its awesome. WHen i First got it I just dumped it in my tank. Flattened it and Cloudiness was gone in 2 hours. and i was ready for plantning

One month in.
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I just did a new 90gal with it and I just filled it really slow and it never clouded up at all. I did my planting when it was filling also. I did the forground plants when the water was only to the top of the sub then when it got about two inches deep I put my mids in. Then when it got about 4in deep I put my back plants in. And no problems at all. Just do it nice and slow that is the key to it and other things too.

Whats this green fuzzy stuff thats growing in my tank.
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Yup, that's SMS. Lesco's is on to us, guys! I talked to a different local store after the guy at mine wouldn't order me one bag, and he said that Lesco's is aware of this market and is thinking of marketing it under a different name.
If you order online and select to pick it up locally your local store will have no choice about whether or not they want to order it. That's how I got mine.
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I just called a local Lesco store. They stock the red but not charcoal. They had never heard of it being used in a planted tank which doesn't bother me. The said it's like $25.00 for a 50# bag. Does that sound right? And can I order charcoal online like the previous poster suggested and have it delivered to the local store? Never heard of this stuff but the price seems right if it works.

I can't seem to find it under Soilmaster select on their website. The store only has red. Does anyone know the stock number for the charcoal in 50# bags?
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