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ADA or Azoo

I'm slowly buying parts to make my 20 long shrimp tank and I'm torn with what might be more cost effective for a tank this size.

Buying a 9L ADA soil and 2L power sand($84) OR buying 2 bags of Azoo plant grower bed ($73).

Anyone have either setup in a 20L that might know how deep of a substrate bed I would end up with in either setup?
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Just get one bag of regular AS.

9L is 550 cubic inches.

The bottom of a 20 long is 360 square inches.

550/360 gives you 1.5" depth from one bag.


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Azoo isn't worth it.

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I'm slowly buying parts to make my 20 long shrimp tank and I'm torn with what might be more cost effective for a tank this size.

Buying a 9L ADA soil and 2L power sand($84) OR buying 2 bags of Azoo plant grower bed ($73).

Anyone have either setup in a 20L that might know how deep of a substrate bed I would end up with in either setup?

Hard to say since it's by weight and not actual size?

9L bag of ADA AS filled my tank where about 1.5-1.75 bags of flourite filled. (15.4lb bags x1.75 =26.95)
Azoo is 12lb bags. x2 = 24lb.
So I would say both would pretty much be about the same.
I think Flourite might be bigger and lighter, so take that into account.

My guesstimates..


I would just buy ADA since it's just a $10 difference.. $10 isn't much for "effectiveness"
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1.5 inches should be fine right. I am using RO water so maybe I don't need as much since its not going to have to buffer hard water. I just hope It's enough to hold some root plants.

I have only seen good reviews about Azoo did not seem like that bad of a product
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1.5 inches should be fine right. I am using RO water so maybe I don't need as much since its not going to have to buffer hard water. I just hope It's enough to hold some root plants.

I have only seen good reviews about Azoo did not seem like that bad of a product
Should be fine, if you slope it you're looking at an inch across the front and two inches across the back.


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Would it be silly to add a layer of maybe small lava rock or even matrix to the bottom of the tank?
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Would it be silly to add a layer of maybe small lava rock or even matrix to the bottom of the tank?
Not silly at all, a lot of people including Amano himself (pretty sure of this) use lava rocks to build up slopes when working with aquasoil.


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Power Sand is small lava rocks with fertilizer added.


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You know I was looking at that and I was almost sure that they just had crushed lave stone lol. It's hard to find such a small size in my area but I was thinking about dumping my 2L Seachem Matrix on the bottom.

I have to use the seachem for my UGF as is so I figured I just spread it all along the tank.
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I've had azoo in my shrimp tank since last February. It buffered very well for about 6 months and I was using ro water. At 9 months the buffering capacity was $h!t. And the nutrients ran out around 7 months plant growth stunted tremendously, of course this is just my experience with it.

I would say for the price difference just go with Ada as.

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I love azoo. Still in my 24 nano cube which I gave to my grandpa which is well over a 2 years (slowly turning into mush, but definitely still holding up). I've had it in my shrimp tank for about a year and half. Currently using it in my 40breeder. It doesn't break down that fast.

The 24 cube I do not dose anymore but its growing plants just fine. I do not dose my shrimp tank. I heavily dose my 40br. I honestly love it. I think its well worth it and I have nothing but great experiences with it.


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Yeah I have only seem positive reviews with very few "bad batches". I was thinking I might order two bags for my 20L and see how my Tiger shrimp like it.
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Do skip PowerSand: that stuff keeps coming to the top of substrate and my oldest AS tank (3 years) is now looking like salt and pepper. I have never used it again (~ 7 AS tanks later).

If I want a slope I do use black lava rock (~$7 for a 40#? bag at home depot).

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Do skip PowerSand: that stuff keeps coming to the top of substrate and my oldest AS tank (3 years) is now looking like salt and pepper. I have never used it again (~ 7 AS tanks later).

If I want a slope I do use black lava rock (~$7 for a 40#? bag at home depot).

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Yep, that lava rock will do fine.
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