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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 09-07-2007, 06:25 AM Thread Starter
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Is Oil-Dry and SMS the same?

Did I make a big mistake here? I ordered the SMS, have it in my tanks but now looking at the bag I am worried. It only says Oil-Dry.........not Soil Master Select.
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Oil-Dri is the parent company of SMS

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Really? I thought Lesco made SMS?

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Ah, you're right. Oil-Dri has a subdivision called Pro's-Choice which makes SMS.

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Thanks. I found out the same thing. Pro Choice is made by Oil-Dri. I think Lesco is just the distributor.
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Lesco is merely ONE distributor.
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Oil -dry the product and SMS are not one and the same. They are indeed both made by the parent company Oil-Dry however the grain size and color are very different. Oil dry is more of a dark tan/brown and has larger grains. SMS mych finer grains and charcoal.
I picked up a bag today only to be dissapointed by the difference. I can't mix the oildry product with the sms I already have. So my search for a local distributor of either SMS C or Turface Prochoice Grey continues.


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Anyone ever use the kitty litter stuff as a possible substrate?
Since the subject is oil-dry, thought it might be a usable item?

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Anyone ever use the kitty litter stuff as a possible substrate?
Since the subject is oil-dry, thought it might be a usable item?

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you just have to be carefull with kitty litter. alot of times they add chems to control odors. As well kitty litter in one are might be different from that in another.
personally I would stay away from kitty litter.


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I use the stuff on the garage floor most the time.....always used the regular stuff with no addins........just popped into my mind reading this post.......
When I was first getting into the marine bio scene, I would use lawn dirt and a mix of lake peat for some of my out door tanks. I never really worried about all the microb problems you have with indoor sterile tanks. I figured the fish in the lake do just well enough on their own with natures best, so a mind set of eco duplication was always my first step in the program.
Funny thing, my bio instructors always claimed it wouldn't work, I offered up a different case every week, especially growing up in Florida and living on lakes most my life. My greatest fear was a bird swooping down into one of the tanks and getting caught up in the screen while trying to get a free meal.

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I used kitty litter in my tank's first incarnation. The Wally World "Special Kitty" regular kitty litter. Basically just granulated clay. Seemed to do the job fine, grew some awesome roots on the plants and had great growth. What I didn't like about it was every time I pulled something up I'd get a puff of KL into the water column, I also didn't like the color. But in a pinch, setting up an extra tank or whatever, or something which you really don't intend to keep set up for a long time, I think it's a good make-do solution. Also, like Blacksunshine said, it will vary region to region. It doesn't all come from the same pit.

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How do you tell the difference?

I think I have been had! I went and picked up what I thought was Soil Master Select, but after examining the bag at home. No where does it say soil master select, it says oil-dri, which i know makes sms, but it is clay, and not charcoal! according to the bag.

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now i am really confused, went to lesco's web site, check it out. the title says charcoal, but the material says clay!

083365 - PRO'S CHOICE SOILMASTER SELECT (CHARCOAL) 50#
Category: Seed
Group: Mulch
Type: Soil Amendment
Form: Clay
Packaging: Packaged
Size: 50 Lbs.
Brand: Other
UOM: BAG
Weight: 50LB

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SMS is clay, Charcoal is merely the color. However, with that info, I can't tell you whether you have Oil-Dry or SMS, as I've never seen a bag of either.
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SMS is clay, Charcoal is merely the color. However, with that info, I can't tell you whether you have Oil-Dry or SMS, as I've never seen a bag of either.
The bag is grayish white with green lettering, charcoal is stamped on it. Says Oil Dri ground clay, but no where on it does it say SMS.

I called a distributor in Cali (the ones in michigan are closed) and she said that is what they have for their SMS, so it seems I have gotten the right thing. I am still kind of iffy though....

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