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So far I've decided to use eco-complete, and was looking at a sand to use with it.

I live in Northwest Indiana, therefore close to the Indiana Dunes.
Could I use the sand off the beach? It is freshwater...
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You could... however, it will fall down in between the eco-complete and collect on the bottom of your tank. Sand has a low capacity to bind nutrients, and the fine particles don't let the water circulate, to bring nutrients to plants roots. I would not recommend it.


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I would agree with WP. The sand would eventually find it's way to the very bottom of your aquarium, under the Eco-Complete.

Why were you thinking of adding the sand?

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Well I wqas reading that a few people here were mixing eco-complete and tahitian moon sand. I figured why not try something natural, like the dune sand.
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People who use the Moon Sand eventually face the same exact problem, even ask Buck!
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I see.

Eco-Complete is black in color. Tahitian Moon Sand is also black in color. I imagine your dune sand is, oh..a sandy color ! I am not sure the black Eco-Complete and the dune sand will give the natural look you are after.

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Eco-Complete is black in color. Tahitian Moon Sand is also black in color. I imagine your dune sand is, oh..a sandy color ! I am not sure the black Eco-Complete and the dune sand will give the natural look you are after.
You've never been to the Indiana Dunes then, have you! :hehe:
The beaches are a sandy color with black swirls from the dark colored dirt below. So i'm thinking it'd look pretty much like the Dunes.

So would you suggest eco-cpmplete alone, without a filler substrate? Or are you saying to use something other than sand?
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The sand will find its way down in time but as long as you dont stir it up too often its fine. That is why its important in the beginning to work the sand into the substrate so that it fills the cracks in a controlled way as opposed to sink holes later on.
I use the sand for my cories which I always have in all my tanks, they just love it. You just have to add a little from time to time.
Most people use sand as a cheaper way to get the substrate depth.
Tahitan Moon Sand is as almost as expensive as Eco so you wont save anything by cutting costs through sand use. I just did it for looks.

100% Eco-Complete is an awesome substrate if you have the cash.
But the success of using sand starts in the very beginning and how you add it to the tank.
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100% Eco-Complete is an awesome substrate if you have the cash.
But the success of using sand starts in the very beginning and how you add it to the tank.
I know it's been a few weeks since you said this. But I was wondering what you meant when you said "the success of using sand starts [with] how you add it to the tank". I just ordered some Eco-Complete, and I really like the idea of using some Tahitian Moon Sand with it. Do you think I should mix the two before I add it to the tank, or just put the sand on top of the Eco-Complete like some others have done?

Thanks for your help!

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