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Thumbs down White worms from Floramax?!

I recently bought a bag of this

http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...uctId=11147295

Poured it into my 10gallon tank, added some dwarf hairgrass and its now been sitting 3 days. Fishless.

Yesterday i noticed theres millimeter sized white worms everywhere!! Tried researching but most people say its from feeding too much that leads to too much organic compounds in the tank. But it was just setup... Should i go back to the store and complain or what? How do i get rid of these before adding more plants?

I have pictures but theyre so small it doesnt help much
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I have had the same problem with people saying I fed to much or other things. And I used floramax. My advice is to stay away from flora max anyways. The only thing it does is make it easier for bacteria to thrive in the substrate and break down waste there is relatively no benefits for the plants in it.

As for the worms. I suggest getting some cheap guppies and throwing them in there for the time being to eat all the little critters up. Ahhh the circle of life

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It says on the bag that it does have nutrients and such in it!?! Its the only stuff ive seen locally besides sand type substrate :/
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While it has few nutrients its not enough to use alone. My plants wouldn't grow with it. I had to use root tabs and dose with diy co2. It's easier to order something online

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Thanks for the heads up i was planning on using liquid nutes anyway... Whats a brand to look into?
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Up aqua, azoo plant grower seem to be pretty popular these days

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The white worms are just nematodes (aka: detritus worms).. they don't harm anything. But yes, guppies and tetras will eat them. I use floramax in quite a few of my planted tanks, I dose pps-pro and inject co2. All my tanks are thriving with lush growth. Floramax and eco-complete may start off with a minute amount of trace nutrients, but it has a high CEC which enables it to absorb nutrients you column dose and fish waste produces... which in turn feeds the plants. Root tabs along with a comprehensive dosing regimen will make this substrate more than adequate. Even the more expensive aqua soils lose their nutrients eventually, in which case hobbyists use root tabs in them as well.


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Thanks for the info! Would zebra danios eat them as well i have (5) in my 50gal
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Ok so i replanted my tank yesterday stirring up a lot of the floramax...

More white worms showed up! Oh well right?

Now there are new bugs as well... !?!

I have about (8) of them in my tank toooo tiny to get a picture of! Literally it looks like a black single hair with 2 eyeballs on it... And they all seem to be on my glass.

What have i stirred up this time? Been googling but not sure
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While it has few nutrients its not enough to use alone. My plants wouldn't grow with it. I had to use root tabs and dose with diy co2. It's easier to order something online
That might be just you because my sons tank has flora max, with no root tabs and his tank grows plants really well, and the flora max is mineralized but like brian said those are lost with time but the stuff does absorb nutrients quite well.

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Ok so i replanted my tank yesterday stirring up a lot of the floramax...

More white worms showed up! Oh well right?

Now there are new bugs as well... !?!

I have about (8) of them in my tank toooo tiny to get a picture of! Literally it looks like a black single hair with 2 eyeballs on it... And they all seem to be on my glass.

What have i stirred up this time? Been googling but not sure
Does it look flat and like this?


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No and i cant seem to find it on any resources!?!

Imagine a single hair 2mm long With 2 balls protruding like a black moors eyeballs.

A hair with the eyes of a black moor lol
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Not sure.. sounds creepy though! Haha

After you clear out your mysterious critter problem, you should dip your plants prior to introducing them to your tank in the future.


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The only thing it does is make it easier for bacteria to thrive in the substrate and break down waste there is relatively no benefits for the plants in it.
I would think that the breaking down of waste would release the nutrients, which can be readily utilized by plants. That's how fish poo becomes fertilizer.

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