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Need some yes's or no's

Going to tear down my 125 and start over..

Since I'm lazy by nature (human) I was thinking of
leaving the existing eco complete in along with 1
year worth of mulm and bacteria.

Tank has been kept clean...undercable heating...roots
were never my problem...it was not dosing ferts led to
killer bba algea.

Would it be ok to add 30-40 liters of Aquasoil on top of my 2 inches
of eco?

What about existing snails etc in the substrate? I don't like em...
were all over...pointy ended ones.
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well those point ended snails are most likely MTS and they will just dig their way right out of the new substrate i bet so you wont kill them by burying them
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yes you can add aquasoil to the top of your eco...
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Cool. I will get rid of the snails after I get the discus back into
grow out tank. I'll search on the snails.

But otherwise...the "old" eco with new ada aquasoil
over the top...that will make a good base?

Or...would all new be better?

I was thinking the old eco would be a good "aged"
portion of the substrate.
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I'm betting that some of the Eco-Complete will end up on top of the Aquasoil.
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The two substrates will get mixed eventually. I don't think you can completely rid yourself of the trumpet snails if you are using the eco. I had some soilmaster that was rinsed with near boiling water, then let dry for a couple days. When the tank was filled back up, sure enough the MTS started crawling out of the substrate.
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Cool. I will get rid of the snails after I get the discus back into
grow out tank. I'll search on the snails.

But otherwise...the "old" eco with new ada aquasoil
over the top...that will make a good base?

Or...would all new be better?

I was thinking the old eco would be a good "aged"
portion of the substrate.
It will be a good base. My suggestion is to get some mesh, like the stuff you cover screens with, and cover the old stuff with that, then cover with AS. This could perhaps kepe the two separated, or you can just let them mix, it can't hurt. As for getting rid of snails, hmmmm doubt that will happen. Maybe get some clown loaches. They like to eat them.
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My three yoyo loaches seem to have eliminated every last snail in my tank, and they did it in less than a month. I see empty shells here and there but no living snail.

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I had some soilmaster that was rinsed with near boiling water, then let dry for a couple days. When the tank was filled back up, sure enough the MTS started crawling out of the substrate.
Yikes, Snail zombies!!!

IMO Clown loaches get a big for planted tanks, and uproot stems.
I have 6 Yo-Yo loaches in my 125, and they really did a number on my snail explosion.

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Thanks guys...I thought it mat be good to use both.
I have decided to just use some more eco to thin up
my substrate. I found a local distributor where i can get
it for 17.50 a bag...no tax.

Now the snails...do they hurt anything? Not many glass
crawling snails...the discus tear those up...just those
ones in the substrate. The trumpets.

Well now...I may just take the plants and toss them out and
the driftwood...leave it out....drain the tank down most of the way..
add the eco...plant and fill her up again.

I need to get this fert thing down right this time.
This is a huge learning curve!!
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Many people want MTS. They burrow through the substrate, and help eliminate dead zones. I've read that the population can be kept in check by how you feed you fish. More wated food means the environment can support more snails.

Good luck. In my novice opinion A 125 is a tough tank to plant well & harder to maintain.

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