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Converting 20H to ADA Amazonia

Hi all. I'm looking at switching my 20H to ADA amazonia substrate. From what I understand, they recommend one-9L bag (plus 2L of powersand) for a 12/24" footprint. I'm wondering how many inches of substrate does this give you? Will it be enough if I want to scape it sloping upwards towards the back? It would be around 1.5-2" in the front and maybe about 3-4" in the back. I want to get enough, but I also don't want to buy more than I need as its kind of pricey. Many thanks.

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11 liters (9l of AS and 2l of PS) will give you a little over a 2" thick base. You'll need to get at least another 3l bag of AS (or a 9l and save the extra) if you want to do any serious sloping toward the back.

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How fine is the powder compared to normal (ADA Amazonia)? Do most people go with the normal version? I have fluorite currently and I think the granules are too large.

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The powder is probably 2mm granules. The folks in sfbaaps who have used it don't recommend it for anything larger than a small nano as the granules are too light to hold down any significantly sized stems.

For a 20H I'd stick to the regular AS.

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Ok. that's all I need to know. I'll get a 9L and 3L of "normal" Amazonia and a 2L bag of power sand. Thanks!

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yeah.. this powder form for?
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Wel while I was purchasing my ADA AS I noticed that have a"powder" form. jsut curious as to what it is compared to "normal" form.
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Powder form sucks. I've used both and like the regular version much better. It is supposed to be used in really small tanks or as a top layer in larger tanks. For me it just breaks down a lot faster and causes a mess. Stick with the normal version and you will be happier.


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It also says the the powder form by itself will compact.

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Yah, I imagine a lot like sand will do. Probably best to stick with "regular", although now I'm wondering if I want to get the powersand or not. A lot of folks say its not really needed, but I don't know. I'm just trying to save a little $$ and weight for shipping costs. I would love to just go somewhere and pick it up, but I live in Sacramento and the closest place I know of who carries this is Aquaforest in San Francisco, which would be a good 1 1/2-2 hrs from here. The cost of gas would just about equal the shipping cost, I bet. Plus, they may mark prices up a little from the ADA website, I don't know.

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it is not that expensinve.. $30 for 3 bags of dirt haha.. so alittle under $10 a bag.. probably about $8 since I got a small think of PS.

hey what do you mean it breaks down alot easier?
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I recently did esactly what you are doing, and I figured i would need more than 9 liters on top of the 2 liters of Powersand i used, but I rteally didnt. I have a slope of about 3.5"-4" in the back and about an 1.5" in the front, and I am fully satisfied.
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Where are you getting your numbers from CardBoardBoxProcessor? The 9L bag is $26, the 3L bag is $13 and the 2L bag of powersand is $20. For one of each of those, including the cheapest shipping, would be around $80. Looks like I'll just need the one 9L bag, according to Nightshop. I'll probably get a bag of powersand to, so it should be fine. Thanks for the replies!

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